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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Golden Globes

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SwissBall · 10/01/2022 13:44

news.sky.com/story/golden-globes-2022-power-of-the-dog-west-side-story-and-succession-among-big-winners-but-no-celebrities-at-scaled-down-event-12512810

Am I bigoted to want the Best Actress award to go to an adult human female?

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RoaringtoLangClegintheDark · 11/01/2022 13:54

Also this:

twitter.com/missmelahabijan/status/1480387002188980226

“HERSTORY”. No, it’s very definitely HISTORY and it’s the same history as always.

This rank appropriation of the fight of women to be seen as equally human beings - to have our voices and achievements recorded and recognised in the face of a completely male dominated narrative throughout centuries and centuries - is enraging.

This is what happens when the oppressor class are allowed to identify into the oppressed class. The oppressors take over our story, our voices, our own struggle for liberation. It’s all just there for the taking for them. They force team us with them when the differences between us couldn’t be more starkly clear.

The fact they have the power to do this, and we don’t have the power to stop them, says it all.

RepentMotherfucker · 11/01/2022 14:13

Did Poppy plop?

Ah what a shame. I really wanted to know what living as a woman means.

I suspect I am doing it OK as I have made kids packed lunches, done the school run, put a wash on, spoken with school therapist x 2, chased up a dentist referral, changed a bed, walked a dog and made a quiche (sweet potato and feta) so far today but I wanted to check.

Is that what you meant Poppy? Is it?

TInkyWlnky · 11/01/2022 14:24

The oppressors take over our story, our voices, our own struggle for liberation. It’s all just there for the taking for them. They force team us with them when the differences between us couldn’t be more starkly clear.

Exactly this.

Bluebluemoon · 11/01/2022 14:40

Oh this is all just too much now. It's an insult.

RoaringtoLangClegintheDark · 11/01/2022 14:53

It really is.

But apparently it’s A-OK to insult women, because hey! We’re just women! Who cares about that, right?

Datun · 11/01/2022 15:26

@RoaringtoLangClegintheDark

I’ve just seen this quote from the person who won this award:

This is the door that is going to open the door for many more young talented individuals. They will see that it is more than possible.

In other words, this is the door that is going to open the door for many more biologically male people to take awards and spaces away from the biologically female people who need them and who they were originally intended for.

They will see that a young Black Latina girl from Newark New Jersey who had a dream, to change the minds others would WITH LOVE. LOVE WINS.

Except this person was never a young girl, has zero experience of that reality or insight into it, and apparently zero empathy for those for whom it actually was/is their reality.

This isn’t love. Love doesn’t win here. MALE PRIVILEGE WINS. Male privilege wins here just as it usually does. It’s a travesty.

It is a travesty. It's insane.

Are we going to applaud white people for overcoming the racism they say they experience due to identifying as black?

Or the able-bodied, for being brave and indomitable in the face of their disability?

It's always the same dual aspects, too. The initial insult, and then the number of fucking people who go along with it.

BlaBlaSmthSmth · 12/01/2022 16:33

"No, the point many here are trying to make is that maybe you should THINK about what it was you posted instead of blithely trotting out the usual claptrap.

We ALL know what a transwoman is - a man who, for his own reasons, wants to present himself to the world in an often ultra feminine manner. To be able to show that ultra feminine face and body in areas that are usually, legally, by the social contract, single sex and female.

What we want YOU to do is think about why that man, that male bodied person should be allowed to do that.

He went through the whole process of getting up, getting dressed and walking out of the door. Like every other human being. What transition do you think is necesssary fro a man to be a transwoman?

The aim of most posters here in FWR is to say loudly and clearly that transwomen are all, by definition, male bodied. They have to be or they wouldn't be trans, would they?

Women cannot be transwomen? So what is the difference?

What do you think?"

Excellent post @CuriousaboutSamphire

PrawnDumplings · 10/01/2024 07:28

I didn't watch it. Who won what?

Helleofabore · 10/01/2024 08:02

I think you might be a year behind then prawn.

Mochudubh · 10/01/2024 10:26

2 Years.

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