Jon Stewart sticking the knife in to JKR over "Jewish" goblins

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www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10368289/Jon-Stewart-accuses-JK-Rowling-anti-Semitism-Harry-Potter.html

Ffs

There's some funny tweets on twitter now .. 'JK Rowling steals single socks from your laundry' etc ..

twitter.com/CroneInAMillion/status/1478771331814600708

@barleybadminton

People who take issue with any of the above would do better directing their anger at the filmmakers. But then why would they do that, when it's way more fun getting to shit all over the woman they love to hate so much. Again.

I think the film makers share culpability but Rowling had creative control over the films which are also the source of a great deal of her vast wealth. It's inconceivable that if she had objected to the way the goblins were portrayed on the grounds of antisemitism the producers would have ignored her. And she has made no public criticism since, despite the controversy dating back over 15 years.

Rowling didn’t have “creative control.” She had various levels of input, possibly more than other authors who sign away their creative rights (from memory I believe she insisted in her contract that British child actors were cast in the three main roles).

She also had—again, from memory—producing credit on two of the films.

When you assert she had “creative control,” it leads me to believe you don’t know what that means nor have much idea how filmmaking works. I do.

@barleybadminton

People who take issue with any of the above would do better directing their anger at the filmmakers. But then why would they do that, when it's way more fun getting to shit all over the woman they love to hate so much. Again.

I think the film makers share culpability but Rowling had creative control over the films which are also the source of a great deal of her vast wealth. It's inconceivable that if she had objected to the way the goblins were portrayed on the grounds of antisemitism the producers would have ignored her. And she has made no public criticism since, despite the controversy dating back over 15 years.

Great conspiracy theory.

So the film crew were all involved in the new character adaptations all to reimagined to make it more marketable to the largest market segment of the group of film going population, hereafter named "Nazis".
The "Good" can safely call all who ever profited off the film's or anyone who ever walked by a cinema "Nazi" too, post memes at anyone remotely connected and accuse them of killing people.......

Yes, none of the characters, bar Harry of course, have common names in the story do they? Even the ones from muggle backgrounds. I have never thought about that before!

Even Harry was less common back then. I grew up with the books, and the only Harry I knew of at the time was Prince Harry.

If she'd picked contemporary children's names, Harry's yearmates would have been very different. My year (not at Hogwarts!) was all Sarahs, Kylies and Liams!

Even Harry was less common back then. I grew up with the books, and the only Harry I knew of at the time was Prince Harry.

Yes, I was born in 1980 so would have been in the same school year as Harry. Not a single Harry in my year in my large school. Never met any Harrys the same age as me in fact, though I'm sure there are some somewhere.

DS1 was born in 2003 and there were three Harrys in his class at primary school.

Sorry going off topic here. But people criticising the name Cho because it's "unlikely" or uncommon seem to forget that names like Draco, Sirius or Xenophilius aren't exactly common either.

Well bloody hell, Jon Stewart has chimed in to say he said no such thing, he loves Harry Potter and Newsweek are talking out of their arses

twitter.com/jonstewart/status/1478791577573199875?t=lg-M_aN66oTz_DqaJ5RNzQ&s=19

JK said once that she tried to pick unusual names because she didn't want a real life child of the same name to wind up being picked on. So we have Vernon, Dudley, Hermione, Ronald and Ginevra. grin

That's actually very kind - one of my kids has a different, but similar style 'character' name, and he does get a bit miffed sometimes. Suits him though.

And I wouldn't criticise based on Cho Chang at all - it's like the discussion I had with my parents over the black actor playing Hansel in a fairy tale - there's a WITCH and a gingerbread cottage, and what you're quibbling over is that one of the siblings isn't ethnically correct for the origin of the fairy tale?

[quote MummBRaaarrrTheEverLeaking]Well bloody hell, Jon Stewart has chimed in to say he said no such thing, he loves Harry Potter and Newsweek are talking out of their arses

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Holy shit!

I’ve very much reminded of people going to bat for Jewish people by getting het up over JKRs all edged “anti semitism” being unable, apparently to see or hear the Jewish people (on this thread and elsewhere) who do not find the portrayal anti Semitic.

It reminds me very strongly of another set of behaviours we see on here, of people who are not trans going to bat for trans people, but being unable to acknowledge trans people who disagree with them, because they’re the “wrong sort of trans”.

In other contexts, this would be recognised as some sort of “white saviour” thing (a phrase I don’t much like, but it’s descriptive of a behaviour that exists). The point is the do goodery, regardless of if the people being done good to actually want it, or share the same view of what’s happening…

If many Jewish people have been involved in the production, and say they are not in any way offended, and have a different read than you bold warriors for justice, doesn’t it at least give you pause to wonder if you’re helping?

I utterly deplore this social media drive to seize on the worst possible explanation for everything, and the blattering leaden annihilation of any kind of nuance or seeking after truth and meaning.

Nice to see he's called it out.
twitter.com/jonstewart/status/1478791577573199875

"Chang is a Korean first name and you don't generally get see that surname translated as Chang from Chinese in the US (because many US Chinese are from Taiwan); so a lot of 3rd gen Korean American students decided JKR was Kish mixing up a Korean first name and got offended."

There are 20+ Cho Changs on Linked In so it's evidently a name here.
Chang as a surname is common enough in the UK.

[quote Mollyollydolly]Nice to see he's called it out.
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Ooh, I hope he gets them to issue an apologise.

JKR news is the biggest clickbait going, isn't it?

*an apology.

I really hope jk has an assistant who filters Twitter for her, I can't imagine the stress she must be under

That’s very clear.

He says:

“I do not think JK Rowling is anti Semitic. I did not acccuse her of being anti Semitic. I do not think the movies are anti Semitic”

So. Those of you who have hopped on to this thread to say “I agree with
Jon Stewart, JK Rowling is anti Semitic”, I think it would be nice if you followed his lead and retracted that.

Don’t you?

Kotatsu

You've just reminded me of one of my favourite ever threads on this site.

A poster criticised Tony Robinson's Maid Marian and her Merry Men, the BBC children's sitcom for being anachronistic because the character Barrington was black.

But she had had no problem with the Crystal Maze parody episode, the frequent references to Robin of Kensington's GCSE results, or indeed the episode where Maid Marian stages a televised fundraising event to raise money for the release of a chicken called Colin (Colin's Release!)

[quote MummBRaaarrrTheEverLeaking]Well bloody hell, Jon Stewart has chimed in to say he said no such thing, he loves Harry Potter and Newsweek are talking out of their arses

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yes indeed, just watching this and very pleased that he has been so utterly loving of JKR. Newsweek magazine is "roasted" and everyone has to "get a fucking grip" - wonderful!

I knew a Chang (surname) at school.

Am genuinely relieved he’s now trying to rescue JKR from under bus it seems it was a genuine accident that he shoved her into the path of it. I really enjoyed The Daily Show when he was on it; I like his animal rights work; & I like that he goes beyond slacktivism for the causes he’s interested in.

Sadly I suspect that there will now be lots of groundless accusations of JKR having silenced Jon Stewart using her fame + wealth + power (none of which, obviously, Mr S is blessed with)

[quote MummBRaaarrrTheEverLeaking]Well bloody hell, Jon Stewart has chimed in to say he said no such thing, he loves Harry Potter and Newsweek are talking out of their arses

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Of course, it's not surprising as JKR has done nothing wrong. She's not antisemitic or transphobic. These kind of people who say she is will grasp at anything and yet never have any actual proof.
One minute they're saying it's ok for her to be left out of HP as all she did was write the books, next she's responsible for everything in the films.. make it make sense 🤦🏻‍♀️

Anyone engaging in good faith would know she's not antisemtic. Gold loving goblins have been a staple of European fairy tales and children's stories for centuries. It's just so incredibly lazy.
I wish her critics had the integrity to at least criticise or address anything she's actually said, but of course, nothing she's actually said has been that bad so they'd just look like bullies.
It's just mud slinging. I have no respect for people who engage in that while pretending they're somehow being the good guys. It's ridiculous.

Well done Jon Stewart.

Oh, I just saw Jon Stewart's video. Good for him. It looks like Newsweek ran with a clickbait headline that took the worst take on what he actually said.
Shame on them.

Cue lots of reverse ferreting...

BTW I remember watching an interview with JKR about how she had to really battle for any agency at all in the first film. The idea she would have had the last word on how Gringotts and the goblins looked like is just ridiculous. She did not have the power at that point.

He's going to get abuse for 'defending' her, isn't he? Even if it's him just putting the record straight to say he didn't say what was claimed. I wonder how he'll deal with that.