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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

How I became Gender Critical

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SapphosRock · 20/12/2021 16:39

This is a great article and really reflects my experience. Especially the slow realisation that Stonewall and the rainbow flag no longer represented me. Can anyone else relate?

https://duncanhenry.substack.com/p/tra-to-gc

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bordermidgebite · 22/12/2021 14:18

Loads of people grow up uncomfortable with thier sex

Until recently no one thought that wrong or meaningful

MonsignorMirth · 22/12/2021 15:55

I don't want to detract from anyone who is uncomfortable with their sex to the extent they feel distress or dysphoria. I have always said that is clearly a very real condition and people should be able to receive care and treatment for it, and if they transition they should be accepted in many, but not all, cases as the sex they wish to be generally perceived as.

All that is not an issue in my eyes.

If people were happy describing it in terms of sex then we wouldn't be where we are.
It's the "I have this gender and i have always been this gender, which makes me male/female/ a man/a woman in every way and in situation both current and past" that is problematic.

Abhannmor · 22/12/2021 18:03

@NotBadConsidering

The idea of being born in the wrong body isn't literal. It's just the description given to to growing up feeling uncomfortable with your sex. And transitioning doesn't mean you're literally changing sex. The fact you want to throw that in people's faces is just you being insulting and petty.

So why, when Bev Jackson said no one is literally born in the wrong body, did Benjamin Butterworth gasp dramatically and call it bigotry?

Indeed. Now razzli and others are acting like they never claimed it in the first place. Because most people found Benjamin's reaction ludicrous and agreed with Bev.
Jamdown123 · 24/12/2021 04:23

@SapphosRock

I was 'GC' from the start. Never shifted from that opinion. But I straight female, and I come from a community that's not particularly very reflexive in it's thinking around gender norms etc. So I never entertained it, and I don't necessarily think that is a good thing.

But to your q, always been very GC. I've never understood the TWAW argument, in fact I was shocked to hear that it even existed. I think tranwomen are men who need to be allowed to get on with their lives and to live in peace.

Huckleberries73 · 24/12/2021 09:00

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TheMarzipanDildo · 24/12/2021 17:22

@SapphosRock

You are welcome catzwhiskas

I'm interested if anyone was GC right from the start? Or did everyone start out supporting trans rights until they clocked what it actually meant?

I was GC ‘right from the start’. I started reading MN FWR threads when I was 14 though (before this madness), and I was never on Tumblr or the like, so highly doubt I’m representative!
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