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Guardian asks for your Person of the Year 2021

108 replies

Campervan69 · 16/12/2021 17:48

twitter.com/guardian/status/1471460852310155267?t=1rvVe1fU_ydXnBK-b5iW7Q&s=19

Lots of nominations for JKRowling. You can vote. Just click through and tell them your choice.

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refusetobeasheep · 17/12/2021 17:51

Done.

Spottyspotladybird · 17/12/2021 18:13

Done!

Carriemac · 18/12/2021 09:17

DH, a life long guardian reader and subscriber has done it and says theirs is their last chance to do the right thing before he cancels his subscription

highame · 18/12/2021 09:57

Love the James Dreyfus Get ready to clutch them pearls, folks…
@jk_rowling for perfectly obvious reasons

Done, hope they print my response Grin

Moolia · 19/12/2021 00:41

Is it a vote though? Surely being the Guardian they'll just completely ignore this and chose someone that THEY approve of and say something vague like the winner was "nominated" by the public.

ErrolTheDragon · 19/12/2021 17:15

@Moolia

Is it a vote though? Surely being the Guardian they'll just completely ignore this and chose someone that THEY approve of and say something vague like the winner was "nominated" by the public.
They may, but usually when there are awards with public nominations they mention the prominent ones in an accompanying piece. If they do anything like that and don't mention JKR, they'll look really bad.
Moolia · 19/12/2021 17:33

It will be certainly be interesting. I can imagine some interesting discussions going on at the Guardian!

RoyalCorgi · 27/12/2021 16:37

www.theguardian.com/media/2021/dec/15/tell-us-who-is-your-2021-person-of-the-year?

"This form has been deactivated and is closed to any further submissions."

I wonder why? I can only assume that they've received enough votes, there's an overwhelming majority in favour of one person, and they're going to announce the winner as JKR on 31 December, with a lengthy feature, several contributions from celebs entitled "Why I love JKR" and a flattering photo shoot.

Only kidding.

ErrolTheDragon · 27/12/2021 16:41

Assuming they're nominations rather than a vote as such, they presumably have to have a couple of days for staff to look at the nominations, have a conflab, choose one and runners up and then write the piece(s).

KittenKong · 28/12/2021 09:29

I someone on twitter says JKR won… could it be? Grin

morningtoncrescent62 · 28/12/2021 09:35

@RoyalCorgi I love that version. Please let it happen. Closely followed by an announcement from the Scottish Government that it's not going to pursue sex self-ID, and then the withdrawal of every public institution and every university from Stonewall's Workplace Equality Index. Happy 2022.

EarthSight · 28/12/2021 09:35

@KittenKong

I someone on twitter says JKR won… could it be? Grin
How could they know though? Have they announced it?
KittenKong · 28/12/2021 09:36

I’ve been looking online but can’t see anything…

KittenKong · 28/12/2021 09:41

Maybe it’s wishful thinking… not sure! twitter.com/lungbarrow1/status/1475738385033617414?s=21

DadDadDad · 28/12/2021 14:13

Why are people tweeting about JKR getting the most votes / winning the poll? As far as I can see there was no poll. The Guardian were reflecting on Time Magazine's Person of the Year award and requested readers to talk about who they would choose for that award. (The form for submissions is now closed - the article is still there www.theguardian.com/media/2021/dec/15/tell-us-who-is-your-2021-person-of-the-year ).

So, I'm assuming they were planning to just edit together the most interesting suggestions with readers' comments on their choices, not have a "the winner is..." announcement. Of course, given they must have had a fair few JKR submissions, it will be interesting to see if they mention her at all.

KittenKong · 28/12/2021 14:17

There wasn’t a poll - it was an open vote. Which had now been taken down (not closed but taken down). That’s why people smell a rat.

EarthSight · 28/12/2021 14:18

@DadDadDad

Why are people tweeting about JKR getting the most votes / winning the poll? As far as I can see there was no poll. The Guardian were reflecting on Time Magazine's Person of the Year award and requested readers to talk about who they would choose for that award. (The form for submissions is now closed - the article is still there www.theguardian.com/media/2021/dec/15/tell-us-who-is-your-2021-person-of-the-year ).

So, I'm assuming they were planning to just edit together the most interesting suggestions with readers' comments on their choices, not have a "the winner is..." announcement. Of course, given they must have had a fair few JKR submissions, it will be interesting to see if they mention her at all.

True. Maybe everyone is assuming there's more to this than there actually is.
MedusasBadHairDay · 28/12/2021 14:18

@ErrolTheDragon

Assuming they're nominations rather than a vote as such, they presumably have to have a couple of days for staff to look at the nominations, have a conflab, choose one and runners up and then write the piece(s).
That's what I'd assume.

I understand why people are tempted to see them deactivating the form as proof of the Ministry of Truth at work, but I don't think they were ever going to pick a "winner", just wanted fodder for an article. So imagine they will just ignore the people who've submitted Rowling. Which is a shame but entirely predictable.

I'm just hoping that the sheer volume of us might make them think, but suspect they'll just dismiss us as organised trolling. Nevermind that we are totally sincere.

KittenKong · 28/12/2021 14:19

“This form has been deactivated and is closed to any further submissions.” this is what you see when you click on the nomination form. It was there before - I saw it. It asked you who and why, and if you’d like to be quoted in the newspaper.

Why say it wasn’t a nomination?

YouCantTourniquetTheTaint · 28/12/2021 14:22

They didn't announce when the nominations closed, and I think they regularly do that. I too put forward JKR. I wonder if they have the ovaries to announce that she got a lot of nominations. 🤔Grin

DadDadDad · 28/12/2021 14:31

@KittenKong , @YouCantTourniquetTheTaint - I still don't get why you are talking about nominations. There is no mention of a poll in their article - they had a form for submissions of readers' views on the topic.

It says that "one of our journalists will be in touch before we publish", so I assume they are just going to write an article and quote a range of interesting responses. Of course, like many of you, I'm sceptical they will mention JKR, but perhaps they will go there to highlight the controversy...

DadDadDad · 28/12/2021 14:37

Just to add, this Person of the Year article was just one of an ongoing series of "Tell us" articles that the Guardian Community Team run. www.theguardian.com/profile/guardian-community-team

Although, I will concede to the conspiracy theorists that they don't normally close the form to further submissions as they have done in the case of Person of the Year.

Needmoresleep · 28/12/2021 22:09

No idea what the source is. One of the media outlets available through Apple News. But sounds plausible and presumably the Times, Mail etc will enjoy the Guardian’s discomfiture.

DadDadDad · 28/12/2021 22:33

@Needmoresleep - I think that article has built fake news around jokes and conspiracies on Twitter. I'd be happy to see JKR win a poll of Person of the Year, but the article is incorrect to say The Guardian were running such a poll. You can even click on the link they give, and see that the Guardian were simply asking readers to submit their comments about who they would choose for PotY and why.

I also don't know how that article can say "it swiftly became clear where the result was headed". Lots of JKR supporters said on Twitter etc that they would submit her name, but that doesn't tell us anything about what other names the Guardian were receiving.

At some point, the journalists were bound to close the submission form, so that they could write an article quoting some of the views, but I don't think you can read that as "Guardian pulling the poll" because they didn't like the result.

Maybe, Guardian will just pull the plug on the whole exercise or write an article and omit any mention of JKR - then we'll have something to complain about.