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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Original wonder woman Lynda carta tweets about JkRowling

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rabbitwoman · 15/12/2021 13:35

Haven't seen any thread on this - Lynda Carter has tweeted about the recent JkRowling tweet but doesn't she realise she's supporting male rapists?

She has received a tonne of replies all pointing it out to her - hasn't she read them? And if she doesn't read any of the replies, why bother tweeting?

twitter.com/RealLyndaCarter/status/1470833288780685313?t=oTNNQIA-qem50GfNmQkpYQ&s=19

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TheWeeDonkey · 15/12/2021 14:15

JKR was talking about male rapists who claim trans identity to avoid justice, I don't know who these people think they are supporting when they speak against that because it certainly isn't transgender people

ShrillSiren · 15/12/2021 14:20

It's because they don't think. They just hear that someone is the bad guy and jump on a bandwagon, everyone has to #bekind.

Let's be honest, these kinds of people are never going to be hit by the consequences of what they support, they've got a lovely cushion of money to shield them. They're not likely to go to prison with male rapists, or have to go to mixed-sex refuges or be on mixed-sex hospital wards, are they? That's just for the poor.

ScreamingMeMe · 15/12/2021 14:21

I doubt she has a clue.

ArtemesiaK · 15/12/2021 14:23

92 thousand likes! What a huge wall of idiocy we're up against! It's so depressing..... :(

HoardingSamphireSaurus · 15/12/2021 14:57

God. Don't some of tose people realise what it is they are really saying?

Real world effects, not cloud fucking gender land!

Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaargh!

Fenlandia · 15/12/2021 15:03

Original *Wondercervixhaver Lynda Carter

ScreamingMeMe · 15/12/2021 15:12

@ArtemesiaK

92 thousand likes! What a huge wall of idiocy we're up against! It's so depressing..... :(
Tbf it can be read as a pretty general statement.

And twitter does not reflect real life

ErrolTheDragon · 15/12/2021 15:53

Life is just too short. I can't imagine how it makes any sense to use one's fame and resources to put others down.

Isn't that what she's doing herself though?Confused

HoardingSamphireSaurus · 15/12/2021 15:55

Nah! She is preaching righteousnesss.

QueenSue · 15/12/2021 16:06

She didn't tweet it at JKR though did she? Would be very awkward if she did, as a response to a tweet about male rapists.

rabbitwoman · 15/12/2021 16:09

I highly doubt that Lynda Carter - or surely, anyone else in their right mind - would support putting male rapists in female prisons.

I very much doubt anyone actually thinks that's a good idea or a wise thing to do, but of course if you are going to insist TWAW upon their say so, that has to cover ANYONE who says so.

So I guess the idea is that you have to treat anyone who says they are a woman the same no matter what they have done - but why?

Why is it so hard to say that if someone has been found guilty of rape or any other violent crime against women they loose their right to be put in a female prison, why is that so hard? In Ireland, TiF cannot join the priesthood, so why not do a similar exemption for TiM who are convicted rapists?

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LonginesPrime · 15/12/2021 16:16

@ArtemesiaK

92 thousand likes! What a huge wall of idiocy we're up against! It's so depressing..... :(
But these are people supporting trans inclusion, not supporting Scottish prisons' policy on trans-identifying inmates.

The likes and positive responses to the tweet can't reasonably be interpreted as reflecting those responders' views on the original issue - they're just people clicking 'like' to a generic statement of being kind.

NitroNine · 15/12/2021 20:52

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OnlyTheTitosaurusOfTheIceberg · 15/12/2021 22:07

@Fenlandia

Original *Wondercervixhaver Lynda Carter
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NotBadConsidering · 15/12/2021 22:21

If Wonder Woman threw the Lasso of Truth around these rapists and asked them if they genuinely identify as women, what would the answer be I wonder? Hmm

Theunamedcat · 15/12/2021 22:23

Is she afraid of becoming irrelevant

CheeseMmmm · 16/12/2021 03:24

She has been TWAW for ages.

aweegc · 16/12/2021 04:16

I highly doubt that Lynda Carter - or surely, anyone else in their right mind - would support putting male rapists in female prisons.

I wouldn't be so sure. Worded like that, perhaps not. But if that male suddenly identifies as a female, with or without a sob story about only just realising they've always felt in the wrong body and how hard life has been and how scared they are of what'll happen to them in male prison (the story isn't actually needed anymore because there's been enough social conditioning for many people, "be kind" women in particular to make the link themselves), then many women appear to support their move to women's prisons. They see it as protective (kind) and the term "rapist" or "sexual offender" melts into the ether against the new label of The Most Oppressed and The Most Vulnerable.

So I would definitely not assume she doesn't support men in women's prisons. It's exactly what's happening already and in order for that to occur, there are supporters.

Totalwasteofpaper · 16/12/2021 05:01

So the voice in Linda's head is like

" yes, yes all valid points but.... MONEY!
Money money money money. Lovely money"

She is trying to cement her status as an lgbt+ icon as getting a few extra $$$ peddling this a
Stunningly brave, empowered love clap trap at a few conventions, panels and maybe a talk show or two.

AllTheUsernamesAreAlreadyTaken · 16/12/2021 07:38

I’ve seen some horrific statement in regard to this topic but this is up there as being one of the worst.

A man claiming that when a male rapes a female, the female is not disadvantaged in anyway by the difference in biology.

Original wonder woman Lynda carta tweets about JkRowling
ErrolTheDragon · 16/12/2021 08:45

A man claiming that when a male rapes a female, the female is not disadvantaged in anyway by the difference in biology.

I think he meant she's not disadvantaged by the label the rapist chooses, rather than biology.... but still horribly crass and insensitive. And of course, he's not considering the effect on other women who the rapist may be imprisoned with.

timeisnotaline · 16/12/2021 08:59

@ErrolTheDragon

A man claiming that when a male rapes a female, the female is not disadvantaged in anyway by the difference in biology.

I think he meant she's not disadvantaged by the label the rapist chooses, rather than biology.... but still horribly crass and insensitive. And of course, he's not considering the effect on other women who the rapist may be imprisoned with.

He’s not considering women full stop. Who cares about those lesser people?

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crunchermuncher · 16/12/2021 09:53

Not disadvantaged?

What about feeling gaslit? Of the trauma of having that awful experience minimised,
as you then have to explain that you were actually 'really' raped, with a penis, despite your attacker 'being a woman'?

Being believed and understood is a huge part of overcoming the shame of trauma, of understanding that it wasn't your fault. Its easier for our brains to think that a traumatic experience was caused by our own failings, as that feels more fixable than the terror of realising that we live in a world where sometimes horrific things just happen. Truth and clarity are key elements of healing trauma.

But no, who cares how a violated and traumatised woman feels? Angry

#bekind my arse.

RoyalCorgi · 16/12/2021 10:04

It's extraordinary, isn't it, that misgendering a trans woman is "literal violence" but a rape victim being forced to call her rapist "she" is of no consequence whatsoever.

I think that JKR's tweet has exposed the fact that a lot of people jumping on this bandwagon really have no idea what they're talking about. Recording the sex of rapists as female is both intellectually and morally indefensible. There should be no more to it than that.

The fact that people like Lynda Carter are describing this view as "transphobic" suggests they are perfectly comfortable with the idea that trans women can be rapists - something that they're at pains to deny the rest of the time.

ZuttZeVootEeeVo · 16/12/2021 12:16

I highly doubt that Lynda Carter - or surely, anyone else in their right mind - would support putting male rapists in female prisons.

I very much doubt anyone actually thinks that's a good idea or a wise thing to do, but of course if you are going to insist TWAW upon their say so, that has to cover ANYONE who says so.

Well it happens, so obviously some people support it.

Given she must be aware of JKR tweet and she's decided to stress the importance of affirming gender identity, I'm not assuming she thinks male rapists in female prisons is a bad idea.