What does this meme mean?

[TheSilveryHildaOgdenWoolley]

(My usual user name is TheSilveryPussycat.)

Can anyone enlighten me about this FB meme? When I asked the poster what it meant, I got the following reply:

It means ‘the kids are alrite’ haha yay!! So…the young people are using a crazy 80s ‘voice’ (he man) to ridicule homophobic and transphobic idiocy from same era : irony is loads but watch he man!!! The dead name referenceci think is best left for more experienced explanation than I: internet fab for this! Dead name I imagine is referring to name a person had before they were consciously living who they/we feel to bee! It’s a piss take out of eedjits tho,basically 🥰🥰✨✨

It doesn't seem to be aimed at anyone outside the gender theorists. In fact it seems to ridicule the rest of us, but in a way that we can't understand, only those "in the know."

Last para mine, obvs.

I'd reply 'Why are you posting a meme when you don't understand what it means?' I'd be tempted to signpost them to some English lessons too...

The person who posted it is an idiot who doesn't understand it.

@NeedsCharging

The person who posted it is an idiot who doesn't understand it.

This.

The point is that Eve is implied to also be a transwoman, to further irritate and confound a homophobic (and therefore also transphobic) person. The He-man reference is because each episode ended with a trite cheesy "remember kids" homily, as I recall.

Agreed, Needs.

I am not going to engage further - not about this anyway!

The posting style is deliberate. I think she thinks it is cool.

I sort of get the meme - but why Adam and Eve are the names used is a mystery.

Agreed, Needs.

I am not going to engage further - not about this anyway!

The posting style is deliberate. I think she thinks it is cool.

I sort of get the meme - but why Adam and Eve are the names used is a mystery.

Why post something if they don't understand it?

Whoever says the Adam and Steve line would now be classed as a transphobe given the rest of the meme, not a homophobe (as it was used in the past). So the whole meme doesn't make sense.

It was a homophobic trope from decades ago to say "Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve"*. The meme is to supposedly make the point that you can bring this trope into the present day where a hypothetical transphobic person could make the same comment. This is to imply that a present day person saying it's impossible to change sex is the same as an old school homophobe.

The He-Man thing is just window dressing to distract people from seeing that the message of the meme is pretty empty.

• www.nytimes.com/1977/11/20/archives/equal-rights-plan-and-abortion-are-opposed-by-15000-at-rally-like-a.html

but why Adam and Eve are the names used is a mystery.

First man and women on earth. It takes a man and women to reproduce. This is why its a stupid meme...even if Steve is now Eve there will be no reproduction.

But surely a homophobe would just reply that Cain and Abel are proof that Eve is not a transwoman.

I'm an atheist so it's all bollocks to me but it's a pretty shit response to homophobia.

It was a homophobic trope from decades ago to say "Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve"*. The meme is to supposedly make the point that you can bring this trope into the present day where a hypothetical transphobic person could make the same comment. This is to imply that a present day person saying it's impossible to change sex is the same as an old school homophobe.

The He-Man thing is just window dressing to distract people from seeing that the message of the meme is pretty empty.

• www.nytimes.com/1977/11/20/archives/equal-rights-plan-and-abortion-are-opposed-by-15000-at-rally-like-a.html

It was a homophobic trope from decades ago to say "Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve"*. The meme is to supposedly make the point that you can bring this trope into the present day where a hypothetical transphobic person could make the same comment. This is to imply that a present day person saying it's impossible to change sex is the same as an old school homophobe.

The He-Man thing is just window dressing to distract people from seeing that the message of the meme is pretty empty.

• www.nytimes.com/1977/11/20/archives/equal-rights-plan-and-abortion-are-opposed-by-15000-at-rally-like-a.html

Grrr @ glitchy MN.

Further thoughts - is Adam a gay man in a gay relationship with a person who was born a woman, Eve, and has transitioned to Steve, the opposite gender? (And has picked a rhyming name - is this a common thing?)

Aww bless. It’s a kid posting their

Homophobia: Adam should be with Eve and not with Steve.

Transphobia: Adam is with Eve who is a transwoman who before their transition was called Steve.

You are over thinking this OP

@allmywhat

Aww bless. It’s a kid posting their

Oops! I was trying to think if there’s a word for imaginary arguments you have in the shower. Esprit d’escalier isn’t quite right, is it?

Someone felt super smug after defeating their imagined enemy with that zinger. Enough to make a meme out of it!

Definitely overthinking.

"It's Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve" is a common simplistic retort to pro-LGB relationship comments, made usually by small minded and/or religious, conservative people. That's all.

This stupid meme is trying to make the point that Eve could be a transwoman. So even this apparent heterosexual relationship could actually be something that would upset someone with homophobic and transphobic feelings.

Adam was He-mans 'civilian (if you will) name'

But gender ideology is homophobic, so the poster of the meme is even more ridiculous.

Thanks, all is now clear...

I was in my 30s in the eighties, but this is the first time I have heard this Adam and Eve thing. Would you Adam and Steve it!!

My friend's son was into He-man, but I didn't know his name was Adam. I also knew She-ra but didn't realise she was his sister, or that her name was Adora. With those names, perhaps another name could be crafted?

BTW I confess that I am overthinking it for fun, with my tongue in my cheek

another meme* should be crafted

Thanks, all is now clear...

I was in my 30s in the eighties, but this is the first time I have heard this Adam and Eve thing. Would you Adam and Steve it!!

My friend's son was into He-man, but I didn't know his name was Adam. I also knew She-ra but didn't realise she was his sister, or that her name was Adora. With those names, perhaps another name could be crafted?

BTW I confess that I am overthinking it for fun, with my tongue in my cheek

The Adam and Steve line was a staple of online arguments against same-sex marriage. Circa 1995-2005?

It fulfilled the same function as "trans rights are human rights" and "you don't think trans people exist"; that is, it informed you that your discussion partner had no interest in talking to you, and that they only wanted to chant slogans at you until you gave up.

Why did this one out of millions of memes catch your eye?

Just interested! Someone you know posted?
Just got on your tits?

We all spend too much time and headspace trying to get to grips with gender > sex. Given even the likes of stonewall write bizarre drivel on this topic.

The meme doesn't make sense.

Taken a random cartoon character and put something they think sounds clever over it.

Nothing more.