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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Victim Support tweets that Transwidows are abusers

87 replies

BitMuch · 20/11/2021 20:02

twitter.com/VictimSupport/status/1404352816538435586

'If your partner refuses to use your correct pronouns or deadnames you, this is #abuse and it’s unacceptable.'

This graphic also appears to have been drawn to call Transwidows and their children transphobic for using correct-sex pronouns twitter.com/VictimSupport/status/1442769813428965376.

Victim Support state you should always use demanded pronouns, including non-binary made-up ones, no matter how obviously male or female a person is. twitter.com/VictimSupport/status/1415246776177672193

Victim Support is the charity women who have been domestically abused and raped are referred to by the police. They support and advise women during the police investigation and in court as well as those who haven't reported to the police.

Victim Support have been given 'Star Performer' status by Stonewall and rank highly on the Stonewall Index. www.victimsupport.org.uk/victim-support-named-top-charity-third-year-stonewall-workplace-equality/

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BoreOfWhabylon · 21/11/2021 12:36

Emma Barnett
Stephen Nolan
Woman's Hour
James Kirkup
Janice Turner

I think an email to any/all of these might prove fruitful. Especially if including some of the realities of being a transwoman.

BoreOfWhabylon · 21/11/2021 12:41

Oh and the Baroness, of course!

mobile.twitter.com/Baroness_Nichol?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 21/11/2021 12:49

I think an email to any/all of these might prove fruitful. Especially if including some of the realities of being a transwoman.

Transwidow rather than transwoman?

TonyThreePies · 21/11/2021 13:16

If this was tweeted in June why has it come to light now?

BoreOfWhabylon · 21/11/2021 13:19

@EmbarrassingHadrosaurus

I think an email to any/all of these might prove fruitful. Especially if including some of the realities of being a transwoman.

Transwidow rather than transwoman?

Gosh yes, I meant realities of being a transwidow! Blush
Thelnebriati · 21/11/2021 13:28

@TonyThreePies

If this was tweeted in June why has it come to light now?
Because of the way Twitter algorithms work. We don't always see tweets of accounts, even if we follow them.

Twitter is biased in so many ways.
I notice my 'likes' aren't sticking again and I have to like and unlike each post 4 or 5 times.
There's a popular reply to a post that is hidden. The main post is about harassing a woman and doxxing her, it has a few hundred likes. The popular answer had over 4,000 likes last time I looked. Sometimes answers are hidden on the grounds they may be offensive and they are completely innocuous.
Your account will randomly follow and unfollow other users.

Its often gender critical accounts that are targeted this way. I don't know if an other groups are affected by I never hear trans activists making these complaints.

NewlyGranny · 21/11/2021 17:50

I think the key voices we need to hear are those of the children of later transitioning transwomen. At 6 or 10 it must be so hard to stop saying Dad to your dad, especially if not-dad is hurt or angry every time you do it. And what are you supposed to call him instead, especially if the new name has a porn-star or drag queen ring to it.

And a 14 or 16 yo is going to feel all kinds of grossed out as their growing understanding of sexuality gives them mental images they'd probably rather not have. Just imagine a 19 to 19yo wanting to bring home a new bf or gf to meet their parents...

Also, there's the risk that not-dad will want to weep or unburden inappropriately on their kids. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Clymene · 21/11/2021 17:58

@NewlyGranny

I think the key voices we need to hear are those of the children of later transitioning transwomen. At 6 or 10 it must be so hard to stop saying Dad to your dad, especially if not-dad is hurt or angry every time you do it. And what are you supposed to call him instead, especially if the new name has a porn-star or drag queen ring to it.

And a 14 or 16 yo is going to feel all kinds of grossed out as their growing understanding of sexuality gives them mental images they'd probably rather not have. Just imagine a 19 to 19yo wanting to bring home a new bf or gf to meet their parents...

Also, there's the risk that not-dad will want to weep or unburden inappropriately on their kids. 🤦🏼‍♀️

The Children of Transitioners blog is excellent. As for abusive behaviour, this post is a sobering read: childrenoftransitioners.org/2021/01/24/the-abusive-autogynephile/

I have been helped by Victim Support in the past. Im really horrified at the stance they're taking. Really horrified.

Funnylittlefloozie · 21/11/2021 18:24

If I have a neurodiversity that means I am desperately literal, does my husbands wish to be referred to as 'she' trump my inability to deny what is in front of my eyes (I.e.a man)?

TinselAngel · 21/11/2021 18:59

@Funnylittlefloozie

If I have a neurodiversity that means I am desperately literal, does my husbands wish to be referred to as 'she' trump my inability to deny what is in front of my eyes (I.e.a man)?
I think it trumps everything.
VanGoghsDog · 21/11/2021 19:11

To be fair, they say "use the correct pro nouns". So he/him then!!!

ChristinaXYZ · 21/11/2021 19:51

Isn't making your partner call you something they don't believe in also coercive control? Isn't that more abusive, and actually illegal?

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