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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Christmas cards: which charities acknowledge women exist?

68 replies

MinervaBoudicca · 14/11/2021 12:39

So, in the past would happily buy cards from oxfam, amnesty etc but as they seem to have doubts that the female sex exists, I’m having to select my Xmas cards more carefully this year.
Samaritans seem good. Is there one for female refuges or similar?

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MinervaBoudicca · 15/11/2021 07:58

Thanks everyone:
Think I may go for hospice ones as suggested

www.royaltrinityhospice.london/shop

The Samaritans cards may be ok?
Can’t see any woo woo on their site

shop.samaritans.org/collections/charity-cards-greetings-cards

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Chersfrozenface · 15/11/2021 08:32

Samaritans have a note on their briefing on 'Gender and suicide', by which they actually mean 'Sex and suicide'.

"In this briefing we focus on comparisons between men and women, which reflects the majority of research on gender and suicide. However, it is important to recognise that suicide is major concern among trans and non-binary people too, who experience a set of specific risk factors for suicide, and whose experiences challenge many assumptions in our understanding of the role of gender as factor influencing suicide risk, and suicidal behaviours. Suicide among trans and non-binary people is an under-researched topic, one that deserves careful and in-depth exploration."

So apparently they recognise the existence of men and women, but also some third class of human beings - note the word "too" after "trans and non-binary".

And the charity's staff put pronouns in their email signatures.

MinervaBoudicca · 15/11/2021 08:55

@Chersfrozenface

Samaritans have a note on their briefing on 'Gender and suicide', by which they actually mean 'Sex and suicide'.

"In this briefing we focus on comparisons between men and women, which reflects the majority of research on gender and suicide. However, it is important to recognise that suicide is major concern among trans and non-binary people too, who experience a set of specific risk factors for suicide, and whose experiences challenge many assumptions in our understanding of the role of gender as factor influencing suicide risk, and suicidal behaviours. Suicide among trans and non-binary people is an under-researched topic, one that deserves careful and in-depth exploration."

So apparently they recognise the existence of men and women, but also some third class of human beings - note the word "too" after "trans and non-binary".

And the charity's staff put pronouns in their email signatures.

Oh bloody hell. Seems the Third Sector is nearly completely captured by this nonsense.

I think it’s really sad that attempts to diversify recruitment etc etc has ended up with ‘diversity and inclusion’ coming to mean ‘women don’t really exist’a la Stonewall and Oxfam/Amnesty

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Mrstwiddle · 15/11/2021 08:56

Salvation Army

Clymene · 15/11/2021 09:02

Plan know what girls are

plan-uk.org/act-for-girls

Personwithrage · 15/11/2021 09:06

Does anyone know where the RNLI stand on this? I recently cancelled by (over 20 year) direct debit to Amnesty and transferred it to RNLI for their work with the channel crossings.

I absolutely want to support charities who know what a woman is though, and who don't spread the confusion and conflation of terms.

highame · 15/11/2021 09:09

Actually, Sally Army are good. No judgement, they just want the cash to help the poor. Giving my endorsement as an atheist. I also donate furniture (they have a bigger warehouse near me) and charity shop stuff

OneMorePieceofCheese · 15/11/2021 09:23

Cardiac Risk in the Young are great and I've scoured their website and can't find any gender nonsense. Plus you can buy their cards online. www.c-r-y.org.uk/shop/product-category/christmas-cards/

TiredMacTiredface · 15/11/2021 09:24

Crap, I just bought from Action Aid on the basis that they campaign against period poverty ffs, hopefully some of the money goes to actual women and girls, even if AA's policy wording is objectionable.

OneMorePieceofCheese · 15/11/2021 09:24

@highame

Actually, Sally Army are good. No judgement, they just want the cash to help the poor. Giving my endorsement as an atheist. I also donate furniture (they have a bigger warehouse near me) and charity shop stuff
Don't they have links with Operation Christmas Child which is linked to far-right bible groups in the USA? Apologies if I'm mistaken.
Clymene · 15/11/2021 09:27

Last I looked, the Sally Army were homophobic. I give a box of stuff to them for the winter shelter but I don't give them cash

Clymene · 15/11/2021 09:29

Ah not any more it seems. But they've bundled conversion therapy into one:

'We recognise the harm done to people by conversion therapy. While there are various definitions of conversion therapy in the medical, mental-health and social-work professions, as well as in law, at its most basic, conversion or reparative therapy is an attempt to change a person’s sexual orientation to heterosexual or gender identity to cisgender.'

Personwithrage · 15/11/2021 10:16

Argh cisgender Confused

Chersfrozenface · 15/11/2021 11:39

I'm giving up buying charity cards. Instead I'll buy from small-scale craftspeople, preferably local.

IsabelGowdie · 15/11/2021 15:10

[quote Clymene]Plan know what girls are

plan-uk.org/act-for-girls[/quote]
Plan looks great.

Thank you for that.

It is so sad that it feels weird to read that website. There is no fuzzy language, no non-binary crap, or “people with periods”. I don’t want to put a target on them but they could be a real option for charitable giving for women.

Will check them out more closely.

Stealhsquirrelnutkin · 15/11/2021 16:32

I'm getting a packet of these, and will use them to bring Christmas cheer to Wise Women.

www.adulthumanfemale.store/product-page/christmas-cards

lanadelgrey · 15/11/2021 17:47

I got some from Centre for women’s justice at Filia - cats with baubles so no good if you have an aversion to cats Grin

Clymene · 15/11/2021 18:30

@IsabelGowdie - I have sponsored a child through them for years and I've never had any gender woo from them.

Warthogontheshelf · 16/11/2021 07:36

I support Practical action, a lot of their work recognises and focuses on women and girls around the world. They have a give a gift section on the website along with usual donation methods.

WarriorN · 16/11/2021 07:58

British Thyroid Foundation

WarriorN · 16/11/2021 08:02

They've been running a campaign to improve care for pregnant women. Also work with U.K. iodine group which have done research into iodine status among women and teen girls, as it affects thyroid levels and also impacts fertility and pregnancy outcomes.

Iodine deficiency and a struggling thyroid was the cause of cretinism. This was virtually eradicated with iodine use in the milk industry. However vegan diets here risk deficiencies unless supplementing as the U.K. doesn't add iodine to salt etc. (Too much from kelp is also bad.)

WarriorN · 16/11/2021 08:03

Obviously anything affecting fertility also affects hormonal cycles and pms symptoms etc.

Thatwaslulu · 16/11/2021 08:07

I always get them from a charity supporting older people (they run the retirement village where the Old People's Home for Four Year Olds was filmed, amongst others) because they are doing great things with dementia research. It's called the ExtraCare Charitable Trust.

Lemonyfuckit · 16/11/2021 09:11

I would like to get some from MND Association as my DF passed away from MND earlier this year. I had high hopes looking at their diversity and inclusion page as it talked about sex and sexuality and no mention of gender....scrolled down a bit further and said their policy is the process of being updated...scrolled down a bit further and said they have recently become a Stonewall diversity champion. Hmmm I may have to dig a little deeper. For the most part my gut feeling though is I think they're mainly just concerned with helping people with MND without getting sidetracked by all this guff.

Chersfrozenface · 17/11/2021 08:54

@Lemonyfuckit

I would like to get some from MND Association as my DF passed away from MND earlier this year. I had high hopes looking at their diversity and inclusion page as it talked about sex and sexuality and no mention of gender....scrolled down a bit further and said their policy is the process of being updated...scrolled down a bit further and said they have recently become a Stonewall diversity champion. Hmmm I may have to dig a little deeper. For the most part my gut feeling though is I think they're mainly just concerned with helping people with MND without getting sidetracked by all this guff.
Why is a charity wasting money from donations on membership of one of Stonewall's expensive schemes?