Pink News explain the difference between Pan and Bi sexual

[PriamFarrl]

twitter.com/pinknews/status/1458908139206623238?s=21

The replies are interesting.

Personally I like pansexual as a concept. I like that people are attracted to others regardless of how they identify. Why shut yourself off from a group?

I still don’t understand how it’s different from bisexual though.

@LobsterNapkin

I think you can be demisexual but have sex and gender preferences too. I know someone who is lesbian and demisexual i.e. no hookups and a getting to know you phase

That's just a perfectly normal, average approach to sex for a lot of people. Maybe the majority of people.

The idea that it's related to asexuality is completely bizarre. It's also the sort of thing that can change quite often over the course of a lifetime.

The idea that standard sexuality means being up for casual sex is bizarre.

It’s bizarre but it’s under the umbrella of asexuality.

Thinking about how these ideas seem to be confuing the word sexual, as in being attracted to one or more of the sexes, I think I've had a brainwave.

The people saying this stuff have totally misunderstood the word sex, as in your biological reproductive role. They think it's a very, who you want to have sex with. As in, if you are pansexual you want to have sex with any sort of being, if you are bisexual you want to have sex with several sorts of beings, etc. Not that you are attracted to their biological sex.

Our education system is really shit these days, or the kids have melted their brains of tictok, I can't decide.

It’s bizarre but it’s under the umbrella of asexuality.

How does that even make sense though? It's like they are randomly assigning meaning to these words.

[quote NadiaVulvokov]@BloodinGutters

Is it really though? Because I would have thought not discriminating against people on basis of who they choose to sleep with and how they come to that decision would be a good thing?

Rather than protecting only people who choose to sleep with x or y group of people?[/quote]
Our equality act provides protection for those attracted to same opposite or both sexes.

So we’re all covered from discrimination under that.

We will soon see the advent of the multi-wheel bicycle.

What confuses me is 'pan' as a prefix means 'all', so a pansexual person is attracted to 'all' sexes.

It's a misnomer because, as it's used, it's really "pangender". If you have someone who is attracted to all genders, then they don't have to be bisexual. A heterosexual women could be attracted only to men and so long as the men are willing to apply any of the gender labels to themselves, then the woman would be "pangenderal".

Biped = An animal with more than one leg.

@borntobequiet

We will soon see the advent of the multi-wheel bicycle.

Genius.

And no doubt a thirty page position paper/instruction manual from Stonewall about how to safely Get On Your Bike...

Foot even, but who cares about the meaning of latin words.

If sexual attraction is all about gender then why did they need the cotton ceiling, er, 'workshop'?

"I still don’t understand how it’s different from bisexual though."

That will always be the case when sex and gender are conflated.

@LobsterNapkin

It’s bizarre but it’s under the umbrella of asexuality.

How does that even make sense though? It's like they are randomly assigning meaning to these words.

Asexuals have sexual, they just don’t feel sexual attraction to people. (Entirely contradicts the concept of enthusiastic consent)

So demisexuals feel attraction only after we get to know & trust a person. (Which is actually most people ime) but don’t want to jump Brad Pitt just looking at him in a magazine.

This is how the lgbt+ alphabet defines it.

And your post above- that’s what I keep telling everyone. Sexuality relates to which sex people are attracted to, not what type of attraction they feel to them (whether sexual, physical, romantic, emotional etc).

But taking it to mean people feel sexual attraction only to that group of people (whether set gender or whether only people we trust yadda yadda) means any sexuality can be added to it and it just looks ‘progressive’. It’s a basic misunderstanding of the terminology by many, and a deliberate manipulation of that misunderstanding by some. Which I’ve had to explain to teachers more times than I liked before it finally sank in. (Why tf do primary teachers need it explaining that sexual orientation is the SEX a person is attracted to???) it would be funny if it wasn’t so terrifying.

*have sex

@borntobequiet

We will soon see the advent of the multi-wheel bicycle.

We have those. Commonly called using training wheels.

This is now the new, cool, ‘inclusive’ way to train women to do what men expect them to when it comes to sex.

If it’s termed a sexuality then no one can ‘discriminate’ by saying no.

@Datun

If sexual attraction is all about gender then why did they need the cotton ceiling, er, 'workshop'?

I seem to remember that famous article about 'they resist the penis'.

This is the ongoing battle. That saying stuff doesn't make it true, and not everyone else can be compelled to join in.

So how does this work with the issue of lesbians being called TERFS if they won't sleep with TW? If assume there's is label acceptable in the weird work of trans ideology that signifies a natal female attracted to a natal female? (And yes I know the label is "lesbian" but there you go)

I thought that pansexual must be referring to all the ever growing list of genders. I wonder if you can be a hetero/homosexual-pangender?
I also thought queer must mean someone in a heterosexual but same gender relationship, (also homosexual but opposite gender too maybe).

So hang on. Wanting to get to know someone before I allow him to shove his penis in me is some weird sexual kink called demisexual?

@PriamFarrl

So hang on. Wanting to get to know someone before I allow him to shove his penis in me is some weird sexual kink called demisexual?

No demisexual is only having an attraction to someone you have an emotional bond to. So you don't fancy them when you meet them only after you have formed an emotional bond do you then fancy them. Apparently anyway.

@PriamFarrl

So hang on. Wanting to get to know someone before I allow him to shove his penis in me is some weird sexual kink called demisexual?

According to the people who define the lgbt+ alphabet.

I think it’s a piece of gaslighting to make everyone else id with wanting to jump everyones bones 24/7, along with a need for those who id as demisexual to be special and celebrated.

I always understood bisexual to mean people who are attracted to either of the two sexes, and pansexual to mean people who are attracted to all genders, which includes trans people.

So while a bisexual person may not be put off by tattoos and piercings they would be unlikely to find themselves attracted to a person who has undergone major body modifications of their genitals and chests/breasts. Whereas a pansexual person would be liable to find those body modifications appealing and sexy.

I really wish we could go back to using the word pansexual to describe people who are sexually attracted to those under the transgender umbrella, and leave the words lesbian, gay and bisexual with their true legal meaning, which is the protected characteristic of sexual orientation.

I feel it would also help children considering transition to realise this very important truth. By transitioning they will drastically reduce their potential dating pool. The vast majority of people, however tolerant and well disposed they are towards trans people, do not find their modified bodies sexually attractive. Demonising lesbian, gay and bisexual people for their "gender fetish" will never change this because sexual orientation is not easily converted.

@jiggeryjaggerywoo

So how does this work with the issue of lesbians being called TERFS if they won't sleep with TW? If assume there's is label acceptable in the weird work of trans ideology that signifies a natal female attracted to a natal female? (And yes I know the label is "lesbian" but there you go)

No, that's naughty. You can only have slurs and words that mean 'heretic' for that.

Natal females are not permitted to name a sexuality for themselves that excludes male people from their bodies and not be abused for it. Good girls who are in fact homosexual females phrase it as queer and pan and other things that specify that they will go by a male person's statement of gender identity and not by the physical reality of their body.

This is supposed to be in theory only, with them then able to decide on a case by case basis, but in fact by the BBC article and many accounts, many of these females then experience direct harassment to not just repeat the words but demonstrate their beliefs in action. The whole 'cotton ceiling' workshops were never about wanting female homosexuals to change their language. The workshops were what they said they were; strategising ways for male people to break through female homosexual people's underwear and remove the boundaries the females presented to accessing their bodies.

I rarely find any interest in how the female person feels about this, or identifies, or wants, or likes or is interested in, or really anything regarding her as an autonomous person with any kind of internal life.

@PriamFarrl

So hang on. Wanting to get to know someone before I allow him to shove his penis in me is some weird sexual kink called demisexual?

Oh yes, in this happy clappy, sex possie, porn soaked, Tinder dependant new world. fancying someone after you get to know them or just wanting to get to know someone before you become intimate with them is seen as really quite odd, and if you think thats depressing see also lesbians who are only attracted to women.

You have to admire the sheer nerve of it, don't you?

"No, it's not that I want sex with no responsibilities at all, no requirement to pretend to be interested in them as a person, no conversation, no actual relationship, no need to have any contact afterwards and basically just want to make use of another person's body with no consequences! I'm just of this very interestingly named sexual orientation, respect my orientation."

But you can't be female and homosexual.

How stupid do they think women are?!

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