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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Am I a feminist now?

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vera16 · 26/10/2021 11:29

I have always defined myself as 'not a feminist'. However I am becoming increasingly frustrated with the pressure to accept gender idealogies which has spurred me into a bit of research on the subject. I have come to the following conclusions in my own mind:

  • I class myself as a liberal person, believe in equality, and don't care how other people label themselves, but I do not want to or see the need to change how I identify. I am a woman and a mother and do not want to labelled otherwise.
  • I don't believe self-ID should become law as I don't believe biological sex can be changed. Leading on to...
  • Biological sex classifications is important in protecting women's safe spaces and also for creating fairness e.g. in sports. Leading on to...
  • Women require safe spaces because they are not on an equal footing with men with regards to strength and tendancy towards physical aggression
  • I don't want to tell people what my preferred pronouns are. To me the whole thing is an idealogy in the same was as religion, and not one I believe in, so I don't feel I should even be encouraged to participate. I work with many foreign colleagues and sometimes need to ask how I should refer to them. No problems so far.

And, perhaps more controversially, I myself do not always fit a standard family structure when it comes to medical records, form filling etc. But hey ho, I know it is difficult to account for everybody, so I just get on with it. I don't ask for the forms or the systems to be changed to make me feel more comfortable.

There must be many others like me? i.e. women who do not label themselves as feminist, or who just haven't really thought whether they are or not, but who would support the gender critical argument if the facts were put before them.

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CreepingDeath · 26/10/2021 17:21

oldwomanwhoruns Cheers Grin.

And yes, same - unattractive women who didn't shave their legs, who couldn't get a man, who were jealous of us younger women blah blah - I shamefully believed all that trope when I was younger Blush.

This is also partly why I fervently believe teenagers should not be given hormones and surgery - I know what an absolute idiot I was for years, I would have gone along with lots of things that are harmful to me - I can't believe people in authority are just accepting what these young people are saying without challenge.

ArabellaScott · 26/10/2021 20:00

Well, to be fair, I don't shave my legs. Smile

vera16 · 26/10/2021 20:20

@CreepingDeath I also don't agree with messing about with teenagers hormones! Thanks for your earlier points too.

Actually thanks for everyone's insights. I was expecting a harsher response Smile. Lots of food for thought,

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FindTheTruth · 26/10/2021 22:09

OP many women fear feminism, complicit in our oppression for fear of the risks to our mental health when we recognise misogyny and real life risk when we speak up about it.

to the points in your OP, what society would permit what is happening to women if, at some level, it didn’t have contempt for them?

There's a a disguised mens rights movement called new intersectional/liberal feminism demanding obedience from young women. Look at the girlsnightin campaign where a feminist initiative was crushed and conceded to centre males.

Every woman has a tally. Every female has a tally because of their sex. 1 in 65 rapes reported end in conviction.

Feminism is about admitting what we have still to fight for

Phobiaphobic · 27/10/2021 09:48

Congratulations, OP, you're actually a second wave feminist. You know, the old school ones who just wanted men and women to have equal rights and opportunities in society.

teawamutu · 27/10/2021 20:52

@Phobiaphobic

Congratulations, OP, you're actually a second wave feminist. You know, the old school ones who just wanted men and women to have equal rights and opportunities in society.
And if you don't think humans change sex and that sex matters/women need single sex spaces you get to be a radfem. As a boring respectable middle aged married PTA mum, I find being a radical anything quite gratifying.
MiladyBerserko · 27/10/2021 21:11

I have no idea why women would be say they are not a feminist unless they enjoy being subjugated by men.

MildredsMussaurus · 27/10/2021 23:01

I've classed myself as a feminist for many years, but the focus has changed as I've matured.

This gender identity stuff, I started out very much as #bekind, found that my 'kindness' wasn't good enough and went to educate myself as instructed...

OP and any other women wondering about this, just keep doing your own reading, look at different perspectives, ask questions, have an open mind and you'll come to your own conclusions. :)

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