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Father Claims Daughter Was Sexually Assaulted by Male Student in Girls' Washroom at School

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Tesla73 · 13/10/2021 16:53

Loudon County School Board strike again

4w.pub/fath-accu-school/

since this reported in a few places - absolutely shocking the way concerned parents are being treated

www.rt.com/usa/537321-loudoun-school-bathroom-assault/

www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2021/10/virginia-school-board-hid-bathroom-assault-to-protect-transgender-policies/

loudounnow.com/2021/10/11/mcconnell-letter-cites-loudoun-school-board/

loudounnow.com/2021/10/13/parents-students-press-for-reform-in-schools-handling-of-sexual-assaults/

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SaltySheepdog · 14/10/2021 07:18

The fact is that most assaults against females happen in mixed sex spaces and so opening up female spaces to males (regardless of how they identify) will effect female safeguarding

EmbarrassingHadrosaurus · 14/10/2021 08:34

This is middle American. Generally conservative republican leaning. But we now have schools concealing rape on school grounds, censoring parents, labelling parents who speak up as terrorists. Weaponising their very own middle americanism against them.

On the other thread about this topic, I posted a TES link about rape in schools in England, the schools' lack of action and complete absence of DofE support for the children and parents. No accusations of terrorism etc. but the same lack of care for the girls.

Tesla73 · 14/10/2021 08:59

A lot of the channels i follow on YouTube are now picking up this story and according to The Quartering this kid has been charged for doing the same to a different girl at a different school

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manatsu · 14/10/2021 09:15

It's the fact that everyone is going to bat for the rapist that gets me. Shaming the victim, silencing her father...just why? It really seems like you can do whatever you please if you're a penis owner and say you feel like a girl. People will just lose their minds and immediately cover for you because suddenly you're the most oppressed. Eli Ehrlich being a rapist but constantly getting a platform and being celebrated springs to mind too. Cherno Biko. This just keeps happening. How can you call yourself progressive, a feminist, 'on the right side of history' if you make standing up for rapists and putting down female victims your main priority?

Obligatory disclaimer that I'm obviously not saying all trans people are rapists before someone twists my words Hmm

Ambersand · 14/10/2021 09:32

This is appalling and everyone needs to hear about it.

KittenKong · 14/10/2021 09:59

It’s weird.

Almost as if they don’t care about women and girls, but do about males. Some will murder family planning workers (but say ‘serves you right’ when a young mother is struggling to feed her kids).

Weird moral compass over there.

OldCrone · 14/10/2021 10:03

It really seems like you can do whatever you please if you're a penis owner and say you feel like a girl.

I'm sure one of the reports said that this boy didn't identify as transgender, just that he likes wearing skirts and dresses sometimes. So he's one of the 'it never happens' males taking advantage of 'trans-friendly' policies which let crossdressers into female spaces.

Ereshkigalangcleg · 14/10/2021 10:04

Exactly OldCrone.

NecessaryScene · 14/10/2021 10:07

I've seen no assertion that he ever claimed to be transgender, except from people assuming it from the skirt and/or entry to female toilets.

To some extent, it doesn't matter - what we see hear is the reflexive cover-up of male-on-female violence if it occurs in a female space because it might look bad for trans people. We saw a similar thing at Wi Spa.

Bad behaviour by males is actually treated more leniently if in a female space, regardless of any identity claim.

This is a safeguarding disaster.

OvaHere · 14/10/2021 10:17

It really doesn't matter what identity someone holds about themselves.

Giving all males the green light to go into female spaces knowing that they will be the ones defended when women and girls are harmed is a massive problem for all of society.

None of this should be happening.

Tesla73 · 14/10/2021 11:55

The Daily Signal have more on this story here including the second assault from this month

www.dailysignal.com/2021/10/13/virginia-school-system-deflects-charges-it-covered-up-rape-of-ninth-grade-girl-by-gender-fluid-boy/

and very good point made about why isnt mainstream news in US reporting on this story? This isn't some kid making lewd comments in the girls toilets this is an horrendous assault on 2 girls who will now be scarred for life all for the religion that is "inclusion & diversity"

Kellie-Jay did a good video yesterday where she said kids have had fads and trends for years but the powers that be never bowed down to them over it - best point is when have govts, organisations, charities etc championed anorexia in the young and celebrated the actions of such sufferers. I know i'm off on a tangent but teh footage from the video of Youngbloods gig is heartbreaking and he is definitely one to watch - no way would i let any female in my family go to one of his gigs

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Fariha31 · 14/10/2021 12:04

How can these people sleep at night, aiding and abetting rape of children?

AlfonsoTheDinosaur · 14/10/2021 12:08

@OldCrone

It really seems like you can do whatever you please if you're a penis owner and say you feel like a girl.

I'm sure one of the reports said that this boy didn't identify as transgender, just that he likes wearing skirts and dresses sometimes. So he's one of the 'it never happens' males taking advantage of 'trans-friendly' policies which let crossdressers into female spaces.

Yes.
Tesla73 · 14/10/2021 12:51

some more coverage on this story

www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/loudoun-county-teen-put-under-electronic-monitoring-before-transgender-bathroom-assault/ar-AAPueq8 - not sure why its relevant to point out that The Daily Wire is a conservative news source

www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/loudoun-county-sheriff-responds-to-misinformation-surrounding-alleged-sexual-assaults-in-schools "The Washington Examiner reached out to the Loudoun County Public Schools and Loudoun County Sherriff's Office but did not receive a response."

"To my knowledge, we don't have any record of assaults occurring in our restrooms," he said.

"I think it's important to keep our perspective on this, we've heard it several times tonight from our public speakers, but the predator transgender student or person simply does not exist." www.newsweek.com/loudoun-county-scott-ziegler-resign-student-assault-1638536

nypost.com/2021/10/13/parents-demand-superintendent-be-fired-for-alleged-sex-assault-cover-up/

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Tesla73 · 14/10/2021 13:51

ripx4nutmeg from The Glinner Update

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/america-wakes-up-to-a-nightmare?r=hul36&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&utm_source=

good point here:

"(Please send this piece to Billy Bragg, Joylon Maugham, Owen Jones, Ruth Hunt, Michael Cashman, Keir Starmer, Janey Godley, Kath Viner, Neil Gaiman, David Paisley, Russell T Davies, Nicola Coughlan, Colm O’Gorman, India Willoughby, Aisling Bea, Cariad Lloyd… you know…anyone who needs to read it. For short, let’s call them ‘The Wrong Side of History’.)"

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BelleHathor · 14/10/2021 15:45

Interview with the Father from Tuesday night on Fox
m.youtube.com/watch?v=o8I9QPbhifk

manatsu · 14/10/2021 18:44

*According to the report, other parents were told an incident had occoured but there was no mention of sexual assault. Smith was told his daughter had been physically assaulted, not sexually, and staff told him it would be handled internally, without the need for police involvement.

He was enraged by that decision and challenged them in person on it, which led to the school board - which had refused to call the police when a pupil had been raped - calling the police because the father of the victim had made a scene. This, however, led to his daughter being taken to hospital where it was confirmed that she had been sexually assaulted.

A few weeks later at the school board meeting, Loudoun County School Superintendent Scott Ziegler said: “To my knowledge, we don’t have any record of assaults occurring in our restrooms … the predator transgender student or person simply does not exist.”

During the same meeting, Smith allegedly revealed what had happened, only for a well known ‘activist’ to tell him his daughter was lying and that she would destroy his business. Enraged, he began to swear at her, which led to the police very publicly dragging him away and charging him with disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. The county prosecutor, who knew about the allegations surrounding Smith’s daughter, then allegedly pushed for him to be jailed.

The boy, who’s been described as someone who occasionally wears dresses, has since been charged with two counts of forcible sodomy; one of anal sodomy and one of forcible fellatio, and the court hearing was due to take place this month.*

SaltySheepdog · 16/10/2021 07:30

Assaults happen in mixed sex spaces. No amount of gaslighting can change that fact.

TheWeeDonkey · 16/10/2021 08:07

@Tesla73

ripx4nutmeg from The Glinner Update

grahamlinehan.substack.com/p/america-wakes-up-to-a-nightmare?r=hul36&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email&utm_source=

good point here:

"(Please send this piece to Billy Bragg, Joylon Maugham, Owen Jones, Ruth Hunt, Michael Cashman, Keir Starmer, Janey Godley, Kath Viner, Neil Gaiman, David Paisley, Russell T Davies, Nicola Coughlan, Colm O’Gorman, India Willoughby, Aisling Bea, Cariad Lloyd… you know…anyone who needs to read it. For short, let’s call them ‘The Wrong Side of History’.)"

There is a comment following that compares to when Catholic priests were moved to different parishes to cover up their crimes. So true.

I fear this will go the same way as WiSpa, people will obfuscate and twist the story so much that when the truth comes out they'll say "well the story has changed so much who knows the truth?" When the reality is the person who originally reported it never changed their story. I've heard people say that on this board, its all a game to them.

aweegc · 16/10/2021 08:17

I think schools often try to cover up sexual assaults (recognise this is rape). What's different here is the sheer amount of gaslighting, that the father is being portrayed as a domestic terrorist and has been banned from the school for making the fuss that enabled his daughter to get the rape kit test etc.

If you were a parent in the US and your daughter was now attacked by a gender non conforming boy (not even identifying as trans, just not entirely as a boy) then would you risk prison and being labelled a domestic terrorist and the threatened destruction of your career? Or would you keep quiet?

Too be interesting - and I'm not holding my breath - to see what happens on 25 Oct when the kid is in court. And if he's sentenced, if he suddenly identifies as a girl - you know, "he was under such emotional turmoil because he's been born in the wrong body but a) been scared to accept it and b) been scared of school bullies that he couldn't help himself attacking the girls".

TheWeeDonkey · 16/10/2021 08:25

I did listen to a really upsetting BBC podcast about how often serious sexual assaults are covered up in British schools, colleges and universities. I still can't believe that these institutions are able to deal with things like rape in house! It beggars belief.

Beefcurtains79 · 16/10/2021 09:14

So Scott Ziegler has now admitted he was lying? Where is the other thread on this issue? I can’t seem to find it?
www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10097271/amp/I-look-forward-simpler-life-Member-woke-Loudoun-School-board-RESIGNS.html

AlfonsoTheDinosaur · 16/10/2021 09:21

@SaltySheepdog

Assaults happen in mixed sex spaces. No amount of gaslighting can change that fact.
School bathrooms should not be mixed-sex spaces. No amount of stupidity can change that fact.
AlfonsoTheDinosaur · 16/10/2021 09:25

No,

No apology. Not even a recognition that he lied. Zeigler said that his comments were "misunderstood". In other words, the blame is on everyone else, not him.

Vile person.

KittenKong · 16/10/2021 09:27

I don’t understand how they can’t think ‘what if that was my daughter’ over ‘what if that was my male assigned child’

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