Head of Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre :'Protesters against gender reform ‘give platform to fascists’

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'Women who oppose plans to make it easier to change gender have given a platform to “fascists who want to eliminate trans people”, according to the head of Edinburgh Rape Crisis Centre.

Mridul Wadhwa, 43, a trans woman who was appointed chief executive in May, accused those protesting against the Gender Recognition Reform Bill of legitimising far-right discrimination of trans people.'
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Whadha surely brings daylight to this issue every time they appear in print. Many people will still be shocked to read that the head of a rape support group is a transwoman. And then they read later that this is someone who opposed rape victims being able to choose the sex of the person who examines them.

Well these twattish comments only give more sunlight don't they. At least FWS were quoted in the article pretty neatly discrediting every word.

Being quoted on something you know is a lie isn't a good look.

Every time I see someone using the far right association as means to prop up their weak arguments, I think the only answer is to remind them of who is directly involved with their movement. Starting with the violent protestors that keep popping up (Not just in the UK where women are punched, their meetings drowned out by violent behaviour, smoke grenades let off near Grenfell tower, but France as well), the threats to women, the councilor’s who supported removal of single sex spaces who are in prison or awaiting trial for sexual crimes, the prominent trans people and their quotes which show exactly how they view females and hate females.

These are people directly involved in the movement that we are told has no impact on women’s rights at the same time as this particular activist resigned from their political party because the vote for allowing women to choose the sex (not gender) of the person conducting intimate examinations after rape didn’t go the way they wanted. This particular activist who was a senior staff member at the time in a Crisis centre and went on to become the CEO of the Edinburgh RCC.

Amazingly, MW is a clear example of who trans activists should be concerned about being aligned with. But then, maybe those using the far right as a means to discredit think this person’s behaviour is just the support female rape victims needs, which says a great deal about them really.

This is all they have, baseless fear mongering nonsense. Fling enough shit around and hope some of it sticks.

If they had a good argument they would use it, but they haven't

It is also interesting that some trans activists fully believe that if what they think deviates from what they understand is the activist line of thought, they might be aligning with far right.

Whoever started this ‘you are all aligned with far right’, has done such a successful job of creating this fear it does seem to keep any free thinkers firmly in line. It must be exhausting.

But it has fostered and furthered the ‘all or nothing’ approach to reality as well.

The hypocrisy of MW’s appointment to a rape crisis centre that was started by feminists for women and stating that they are even going to redefine (rewrite) the centre’s history is glaringly obvious.

They really seem to hate women, and particularly those who they cannot control the thoughts and actions of.

I can't find it but what was the recent thread (about the Holyrood protests?) that had a photograph of SNP figures addressing a meeting (they were standing on the roof) with another speaker who'd been prominent in/associated with PIE?

Wasn't Mridul Wadhwa trying to work towards a senior position with SNP until early this year?

Many thanks for the share token. The comments are having none of it. Some very forthright views expressed.

I just think of Rik from The Young Ones when I see criticism like this, it's pathetic and all they have.

@Lifeinthelastlane

Whadha surely brings daylight to this issue every time they appear in print. Many people will still be shocked to read that the head of a rape support group is a transwoman. And then they read later that this is someone who opposed rape victims being able to choose the sex of the person who examines them.

And a transwomen who revealed that status, according to a poster on here. More recently, Wadhwa applied for a job reserved for a female.

What could be more racist than ensuring the poorest women in society no longer have access to women-only services?

MW gets so much press coverage because of her views, as the head of ERC you’d think she’d start using this platform to advance the safety, dignity and care of women, bringing some of the issues that women face to the national press…after all, I would presume that that is the main objective of her role? But it’s clear that women must take a back seat (again) and we must all listen to her personal objectives. Any role she obtains is a cover, all she needs is for it to be high profile.

Whatthechicken

Sadly, this is what we have seen from other trans activists who take roles meant to progress the rights for females. Eg. Women’s officer roles. Each time, their own personal agenda is prioritised and is often at odds with the people they are supposed to represent.

Sadly, this is what we have seen from other trans activists who take roles meant to progress the rights for females. Eg. Women’s officer roles. Each time, their own personal agenda is prioritised and is often at odds with the people they are supposed to represent.

It may at first seem weird how this always happens - surely not all trans people can be so self-centred?

But the answer is straightforward - the only sort of male who would dream of taking a woman's position is an incredibly self-centred one who does not care about women. Or at least cares about them less than they care about themselves - or at least "trans rights".

So that's why this always happens.

Any transwomen who might actually do the job well are decent enough to not apply for it.

Any male who would apply for such a role is not fit to hold it.

Women who oppose plans to make it easier to change gender have given a platform to “fascists who want to eliminate trans people”

So, they are saying that women have opened the door for fascists to slip through? But trans rights isn't opening the door to those with bad intentions to slip through? Righty oh.

The closest thing to logic I can see from tras on that subject, Tony, is that anyone with a trans identity is automatically exempt from any accusations of bad intent or wrongdoing.

It's a bit of an odd position really, the line is that declaring oneself trans (or, I suppose, non-binary) is such a drastic and terrible step to take that nobody would do it 'just to access vulnerable people'.

Only those who are good and pure and true in their intent would ever call themselves trans. I think that's the line.

Conveniently ignoring those who will pursue particular professions, over a period of years, purely to target and access vulnerable people.

Thanks for the token. Encouraging to see 100% GC comments.

'gender reform' should be replaced by 'sex-denial', in my view.

Anything about 'gender' has been deliberately made confusing to the average person who simply switches off when they hear or see it.

Grim misogynist tells lies to get the opportunity be around vulnerable women

The "aligning with fascists" argument is such garbage. Hitler was a vegetarian. Does that mean all vegetarians are "aligning with fascists"? Of course not - it's just a quick way to silence people who are worried about what other people think of them.

Glad to see this nonsense is getting some mainstream coverage now. Hopefully MW's position is becoming untenable.

Any male who would apply for such a role is not fit to hold it.

Yes - to think that having been born male, and not having the biological issues that only women can experience, you should be representing women in any official capacity, you have to be completely lacking in empathy and entirely self-centred and putting only your own validation first. Or at best very deluded, if you somehow believe you are suitable and representative, and that level of delusion wouldn't bode well for you being able to do the job.

MW obviously isn't in the latter category, going by the constant banging on about being trans and about how being inclusive of TW (doesn't seem to mention TM much, funny that), banishing "bigots" who care about biology, and rewriting history are the most important priorities for a service for women

I find MW so shockingly selfish and uncaring that I almost can't believe this is all real and MW is doing it to raise awareness and peak people.

As for fascism, yeah right love. Lefty feminists who have been opposing gender stereotypes, supporting gat rights and who are often lesbian themselves, are allied to far-right fascists? That accusation arises purely from the far left idea that anyone on the right is subhuman and so you can permanently smear your enemies for ever by suggesting they are infected by right-wing cooties. Grow up and have an actual debate you numpties.

Conveniently ignoring those who will pursue particular professions, over a period of years, purely to target and access vulnerable people.

Yes Arabella. The old ‘no one would go through x to get access to their desire, even their victims’ ploy. Some people seem to think that there is something different between subsets of males and the risk they present.

And then they use the ‘all or nothing’ tactic. The ‘you hate all men’, ‘you want trans people to not exist’ … I mean really, who thinks such extreme thoughts. I rarely see people take this line of thought on MN. The only people saying this is those falsely accusing people saying this to paint people disagreeing with them as haters.

There is a political purpose to smearing people as far right. For a lot of people, if an organisation is far right, then it is legitimate to shut them down and deny them a public platform, using violence if necessary.

Wadhwa’s smears are totally irresponsible.

Men who change gender make it easier for sex offendors to access vulnerable people. But that doesn't seem to count does it?