School of sexuality Education

[happydappy2]

Oh dear-just had an email from my Childs school & the above org are delivering sex ed-having looked on their website a 6th form student has written "“I really like how the workshop remained inclusive and it was acknowledged that not all people with boobs/vaginas are female or that penis=male.”

Anyone had any dealings with with organisation please? Seems a very odd message to deliver to school children...

How is inclusive education "very odd"?
I think it's great.

You can withdraw your child from sex education up until the term before they turn 16.

This isn't an org I know about but would advise you to look at the resources page of safe schools alliance and ask the Head why this org was chosen, when you can see the materials and when they intend to consult with parents prior to children receiving these lessons.

@anaily

How is inclusive education "very odd"? I think it's great.

The student commenting has mistaken content that is utterly biologically illiterate and misleading as "inclusive". Try writing in a Biology GCSE or A Level that human beings with a penis could be male or female and see how well that turns out. Total nonsense that shouldn't be delivered to students.

They used to be called Sexplain. I've just checked out their Instagram. They support all menstruators and their team have a lots of pronouns.

schoolofsexed.org/team

Their blog has this

schoolofsexed.org/blog-articles/2020/3/19

Pressed send too quickly

More here

www.diverseeducators.co.uk/sexplain/

Their company info including people involved and those who have resigned (and rejoined)
find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/10625640/officers

A resource they share and support:
‘More than boy, girl, male, female’: exploring young people’s views on gender diversity within and beyond school contexts
Sara Bragg, Emma Renold, Jessica Ringrose & Carolyn Jackson

discovery.ucl.ac.uk/id/eprint/10045420/9/Ringrose_More%20than%20boy%20girl%20male%20female%20exploring%20young%20people%20s%20views%20on%20gender%20diversity%20within%20and%20beyond%20school%20contexts.pdf

Allowing your children to learn a range of perspectives and keep an open mind and be respectful of all people will never be a bad thing

Being aware of who and what your child is exposed to at school, especially if it breaches statutory government guidelines and poses a safeguarding risk, is never a bad thing.

@anaily

How is inclusive education "very odd"? I think it's great.

They have learnt that the terms female and male have nothing to do with biology.

In what way is that good?

Woman/ girl are not allowed so often now.
Female/ male are on the way out by the looks of it.

Do children not need to have any terms for the main grouping of humans? Baby ones and knob ones?

From the links-

'Following this, the student teachers heard from Lucy Emmerson (director of the Sex Education Forum) and Rachael Baker (senior RSE specialist at the Sex Education Forum) who discussed the government 2020 RSE guidance and interrogated the idea of ‘age-appropriateness’ in RSE'

Sounds interesting...

@thisplaceisweird

Allowing your children to learn a range of perspectives and keep an open mind and be respectful of all people will never be a bad thing

As long as it's presented as opinion or belief, not fact. And as long as discussion and questioning is allowed without fear of consequences for speaking accurately wrt biology.

Surely sex education needs to be biologically accurate... How else will kids learn about puberty, reproduction, and contraception?

If a young female believes she's a boy with a vagina, that's all good and well, but she still needs to understand that if someone (regardless of how they identify) inserts a penis into it there's a chance she could get pregnant. Saying you're a boy doesn't absolve you of all the inherent risks of being female.

Plain and simple language is important, especially when it comes to reproductive health.

Keep the inclusive stuff separate, and just stick to the facts.

*"They have learnt that the terms female and male have nothing to do with biology.

In what way is that good?"*

Because they will be educated about transgender, non binary and gender diverse people. With that education they won't end up on forums asking what trans or non binary means, the volume of posts on this forum alone is evidence that LGBT+ inclusive education is vital and should be part of the core modules. It will avoid a generation of people asking what to do when their ~insert relation~ comes out, it will avoid fracturing relationships when someone does come out as they will understand them. It will help those struggling with their own feelings to understand themselves.

I can confirm that having bought this to the attention of the school, the responsible adults were not at all happy with this content. This is why it's so important to check the materials schools are using-some of it is very harmful to children & not to be trusted. Anyone pushing this ideology onto children is a red flag.

Being educated that transgender and non binary people existing is a red flag? They said that teaching kids gay people exist was also a red flag. Repeating history.

Not at all repeating history. Same sex attraction is real-transgender ideology teaches same sex attraction is transphobic....

you need to come up with a better argument.

you need to come up with a better argument.

Isn't that always the way...

Well done happyday. I contacted dd's school to complain about a Jigsaw lesson which talked about 'girls' toys' and 'boys' toys' as if they were a real thing, and suggested a child who liked all toys was non-binary. They agreed with me and said they wouldn't use the lesson. It's always worth speaking with schools as they often don't have time to investigate bought-in resources and just assume a reputable organisation will provide something that fits the facts of life and DfE guidelines. Unfortunately that can't be guaranteed these days.

@happydappy2

Not at all repeating history. Same sex attraction is real-transgender ideology teaches same sex attraction is transphobic....

you need to come up with a better argument.

😂 What absolute piffle.

It is certainly clear more education is needed.

The better argument:

"What absolute piffle.It is certainly clear more education is needed."

Is that it?

We can agree that yes, more education is needed, namely in maths, literacy and science, namely biology.

We could do with a lot more fact and a lot less ideological teaching, lead by teachers who have secured qualifications, rather than external providers who aren't journalists and project managers.

Being educated that transgender and non binary people existing is a red flag? They said that teaching kids gay people exist was also a red flag. Repeating history.

Stop pretending that anyone is saying trans people and people who define themselves as non-binary 'do not exist'. Everybody knows they exist. We also know that they cannot change sex.

@anaily

Being educated that transgender and non binary people existing is a red flag? They said that teaching kids gay people exist was also a red flag. Repeating history.

Being taught that male and female refer to gender not sex is not good.

Can you see any reason that some posters would think that's not good?

I mean the words man woman girl boy have already been widely redefined as unrelated to sex.

Male and female as well? That's positive?

What good does it do?

What good does it do? It will avoid future generations being confused about non binary and trans. 99% of those on this board don't understand trans etc.

It leaves no words to refer to sex.

Only gender identity.

You can't see why that's not a good thing?