Marion millar (sons?) doxxed

[Berthatydfil]

Sorry if there is already a thread on this. Just seen this on Twitter someone released some personal info of hers/ her sons.

"she said exactly what all of us were thinking re the murderer and what should be done to him."

The murderer was a man? MM said something about threatening to put a bullet into a mother's head and her "hillbilly" (MM's word) brother.

@Rhannion

I said exactly the same about the murderer as I’ve done about other horrific cases but no one has me up in court.

If you're referring to the quote about someone deserving to be killed like a rabid dog I have to say I'm surprised that anyone in a profession like accountancy would post that publicly.

Whilst it's not a comment that is hateful in a criminal sense it would certainly colour my opinion of her if I were looking for an accountant.

@MargaritaPie

"she said exactly what all of us were thinking re the murderer and what should be done to him."

The murderer was a man? MM said something about threatening to put a bullet into a mother's head and her "hillbilly" (MM's word) brother.

That doesn't sound like the one I'm thinking of. It's also something which would colour my opinion of her.

Ah was this the case where a 16 year old boy abducted, raped and murdered a 6 year old girl and left her body in the woods? That kind of behaviour generally does provoke a strong reaction from people.

Obviously this has nothing to do with MMs court case though. Just constantly brought up to slur her character as usual. It doesn't colour my opinion of her. But hey, we're all different aren't we. ☺️

@Jorriss

Ah was this the case where a 16 year old boy abducted, raped and murdered a 6 year old girl and left her body in the woods? That kind of behaviour generally does provoke a strong reaction from people.

Obviously this has nothing to do with MMs court case though. Just constantly brought up to slur her character as usual. It doesn't colour my opinion of her. But hey, we're all different aren't we. ☺️

It was that case. I still would not use the language Miller used. It has, as you say, nothing to do with her particular case but it is possible to express disgust, concern even condemnation without using the language and expressions she used.

was that case. I still would not use the language Miller used. It has, as you say, nothing to do with her particular case but it is possible to express disgust, concern even condemnation without using the language and expressions she used.

I completely agree. However, nothing that she has posted would seem to be categorised as "malicious communications" when taken in context.

I still would not use the language Miller used

I might not use it on a social media platform, purely because of the way that people take these things out of context.

It doesn't mean I wouldn't think it though.

And the crime he commited far far outweighs her comments, that no doubt most people aware of the case would be thinking. Utterly bizarre that people are using her words about this horrific case to judge her. I certainly don't judge her for it. But there's plenty on their witch hunt that will use anything against her eh.

I did a little bit of a search on mumsnet itself for the threads about him at the time.

I can confirm that Marion's tweet was not an exceptional comment.

I can confirm that Marion's tweet was not an exceptional comment.

No. Incredible that some are placing more emphasis on her words, than what he actually did.

I'd use similar language as Marion used for that scum bag and couldn't care less what people thought of me for it.

Same with the other tweet mentioned below. That one was about a woman who had allowed her brother to abuse her daughter.

@PurgatoryOfPotholes

I did a little bit of a search on mumsnet itself for the threads about him at the time.

I can confirm that Marion's tweet was not an exceptional comment.

Mumsnet is anonymous. The comments were on twitter under her real name. I think they were extraordinary comments for someone in a profession to make publicly.

Incredible that some are placing more emphasis on her words, than what he actuallydid No one is doing that - so stop inventing things.

A woman and children are literally threatened and the police can't do anything to protect them, while for only a posted picture of a ribbon, a grown-assed Scots male got a panic button and moved to a safe house

This is such a disgrace, but it’s also hard to believe this is happening in a once-sane society. I just have to believe sanity will eventually reassert itself.

Love and sympathy to Marion and her family, and more power to all who are standing up for reality.

Mumsnet is anonymous. The comments were on twitter under her real name. I think they were extraordinary comments for someone in a profession to make publicly.

Not as extraordinary as the continued attempt to slur her name for having the audacity to stand up for women's rights.

@DialSquare

I'd use similar language as Marion used for that scum bag and couldn't care less what people thought of me for it.

Same with the other tweet mentioned below. That one was about a woman who had allowed her brother to abuse her daughter.

Yes, 99% of people felt exactly the same at the time, and possibly still do. When vile things happen it’s understandable that people are angry and upset, and post their opinions. Are we not entitled to be angry and upset? Are we , as women, not allowed to vent our feelings about things that are important to us and to have opinions about injustice, murder, rape & violence towards women and wee girls?

Marion could have been any of us, tweeting our feelings and opinions and that is why her case is important when it comes to freedom of speech, just as Maya’s judgement was.

Marion could have been any of us, tweeting our feelings and opinions and that is why her case is important when it comes to freedom of speech, just as Maya’s judgement was.

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It was that case. I still would not use the language Miller used. It has, as you say, nothing to do with her particular case but it is possible to express disgust, concern even condemnation without using the language and expressions she used.

I agree. I assume you also condemn, publicly, in your own name and in the strongest possible terms, the vile things said to, and about, JKR and other gender critical women?

After all, if it's beyond the pale to use such language and expressions about a person who actually did commit some terrible acts, how much further beyond the pale must it be to use them about women who do nothing worse than respectfully express a different political view.?

@Jorriss

I can confirm that Marion's tweet was not an exceptional comment.

No. Incredible that some are placing more emphasis on her words, than what he actually did.

The same thing is happening regarding Trans YouTuber Chris Chan raping their own mother, who has dementia.

Lots of "Okay rape is bad...but misgendering is what we're going to focus on here, and also, this rape was the fault of 'cis' lesbians anyway."

I've seen few comments about how Chris Chan is a rapist because 'cis' lesbians won't have sex with Chris and if they had then Chris would not have had to resort to raping a woman with dementia.

I think that is precisely what some are doing kimoko

Take off the blinkers and you will see it too!

One comment that expressed the natural horror about the murder of a child...

... The doxxing and harrasing of children because if a difference of opinion with their mother.

Tell me again why the first justifies the second?

Tell me again why it was raised here?

Why would you assume that? I don't use any social media in my own name beyond LinkedIn which I use only for work related matters.

The tweets referred to in this thread were , in my view, bizarre and inappropriate for use by someone in a profession like accountancy or law.

The tweets referred to in this thread were , in my view, bizarre and inappropriate for use by someone in a profession like accountancy or law

Well that's a personal choice isn't it. But it's absolutely not relevent to the court case. Even though people are taking these tweets out of context to encourage more hatred towards her. Her only 'crime' being to stand up for women / children and safeguards.

Honestly the world has gone absolutely insane.

@KimikosNightmare

Why would you assume that? I don't use any social media in my own name beyond LinkedIn which I use only for work related matters.

The tweets referred to in this thread were , in my view, bizarre and inappropriate for use by someone in a profession like accountancy or law.

I didn't mention social media. I just wondered if your commitment to calling out abuse was somewhat partisan given that you chose this time to make the point in a context that has been marked by quite vile abuse thrown overwhelmingly by one side in response to respectful comments by the other.

I'll rephrase.

Are you ok with the abusive tweets aimed at and about JKR and other women who raise concerns with the "our way or the highway, one size fits all" narrative that is dominating the gender discussion?

If not, have you posted on any of the many many threads about various incidents to condemn the abuse or was it just this one which for some reason made you feel you had to make a stand?

@MargaritaPie

"she said exactly what all of us were thinking re the murderer and what should be done to him."

The murderer was a man? MM said something about threatening to put a bullet into a mother's head and her "hillbilly" (MM's word) brother.

That's "whatabouttery" which is a logical fallacy.

@KimikosNightmare

Why would you assume that? I don't use any social media in my own name beyond LinkedIn which I use only for work related matters.

The tweets referred to in this thread were , in my view, bizarre and inappropriate for use by someone in a profession like accountancy or law.

Do accountants not have feelings?

Do accountants not have feelings?

Clearly not allowed to. We live in a strange new world where so many horrors are considered to be ok, yet stand up for logic and safeguards and suddenly you're the worst bigot ever.