LinkedIn - Show your pronouns on your profile to let others know how to refer to you. Add pronouns

[FindTheTruth]

On LinkedIn *an 'Add your Pronouns' call to action message has appeared for some people:

"Show your pronouns on your profile to let others know how to refer to you. Add pronouns"

Which leads to a form with these choices:
She/Her
He/Him
They/Them
Custom

'Learn More' links to a help page: www.linkedin.com/help/linkedin/answer/129291
(Might vary depending on what region, country, part of the world you are in)

Saying....

^Use Gender Pronouns on LinkedIn

Important: This feature is being gradually rolled out only in a few select regions/languages at this time.

We’re committed to building a more diverse and inclusive platform, and gender pronouns play an important role in creating a welcoming community for members of all gender identities. Now, you can add your gender pronouns to your profile to let others know how to refer to you.

This is optional, and if you choose to display your gender pronouns, you’ll be able to control who sees them. The visibility options are:

1st degree-connections: Only LinkedIn members you’re directly connected with
All LinkedIn members: All members signed into LinkedIn
Based on your visibility choices, your gender pronouns will appear next to your name on LinkedIn in three places: your profile, the feed (whenever you share or comment on a post), and in messages.

We understand details about your identity are personal, so members won’t be able to search for you based on your pronouns.

Note: If you choose the pronouns she/her or he/him from the pronouns dropdown (options available in select regions only), we may use this selection to infer your gender.
"Use Gender Pronouns on LinkedIn
Last updated: 2 months ago
Important: This feature is being gradually rolled out only in a few select regions/languages at this time.

We’re committed to building a more diverse and inclusive platform, and gender pronouns play an important role in creating a welcoming community for members of all gender identities. Now, you can add your gender pronouns to your profile to let others know how to refer to you.

This is optional, and if you choose to display your gender pronouns, you’ll be able to control who sees them. The visibility options are:

1st degree-connections: Only LinkedIn members you’re directly connected with
All LinkedIn members: All members signed into LinkedIn
Based on your visibility choices, your gender pronouns will appear next to your name on LinkedIn in three places: your profile, the feed (whenever you share or comment on a post), and in messages.

We understand details about your identity are personal, so members won’t be able to search for you based on your pronouns.

Note: If you choose the pronouns she/her or he/him from the pronouns dropdown (options available in select regions only), we may use this selection to infer your gender."^

As for using your stated pronouns (if any) to infer your gender, I thought that was the point of them? Apart from the political signalling, pronoun-declarers do it to state their “gender” (not their sex) so they’d be happy for it to be inferred from the pronouns they choose to display. Surely they won’t be offended by that as well?

An example of how this causes division in the workforce is my wifes old employer. She worked there with someone who was absolutely terrible at his job - always off sick, playing the mental health card etc - but during lockdown he came out as trans and since then this big company (SW champs) has showered him with accolades - he was employee of the year for his courage, has a completely made up busy work role that doesnt need to exist and recently released a lecturing video as to why they should be asking for pronouns and respecting them and that they should put them in their emails.

My wife is still in contact with her old colleagues and they are so effed off by this but obviously dont feel they can raise their issues.

Basically this person has failed upwards and purely because of his "identity" is being treated like the best person that ever walked the earth.

The good news here though is that due to his employer validating him and his behaviour his arrogance and self importance has spilled over into the outside world and his Linkedin is full of such woke nonsense. He goes on about his identity, his non-job, basically loads of things that arent relevant to a website for networking and finding jobs and its good to see that lots of people are commenting on his profile saying its not appropriate - things such as this is a job seeking site not a social media forum, save this stuff for facebook etc

I said to my wife that if he ever loses his job he will find it really hard to get another one with the profile he currently has on LinkedIn - she said that they'd never get rid of his because of his trans status but I know from experience big business can change in a second. All it takes is a new exec to come in a clear house from the top downwards and all the people he has sucked up to will be gone leaving only those he effed off in the process.

So after the lengthy ramble I'm basically saying that I'm beginning to think LinkedIn have deliberately done what they have done. Maybe pressured by SW or somesuch to be inclusive but choosing to do it in such a way as to make it voluntary and in the process do prospective employers a favour.

They may not lose their job but they may start to believe their own hype and manage to get a new job only to find they ain’t all that...

@KittenKong exactly.

And we are seeing this all over the world now where this has taken hold; the arrogance has made them go bigger and bigger and their latest backfire was setting up the Vietnam Vet Bookshop owner in US last week.

A trans city councillor basically filmed the set up and then announced that he and Antifa would be protesting there on saturday. But then they saw the backlash and the sheer amount of support for this 78 yr old who in TV interviews was just not backing down.

The result was - even though this was something so important to the councillor and had done so much harm to him and the trans community - the protest was cancelled as he was doing something else.

Reckon behind the scenes his bosses told him to reel it in (sadly a load of women at a spa doesnt get the same respect as a war vet) as this was a vietnam vet and they were openly using Twitter to rile up attacks on his shop and include Antifa.

In the end over 400 people turned up in support of the shop owner and less than a dozen turned up for the cancelled "protest". The footage of them is hilarious - like a protest in Grange Hill.

Reckon it went along way to Peak Transing alot of Americans.

On top of this you have the lastest video from the Whitehouse to encourage americans to get the vaccine which has been a huge misfire with even the left mocking it

Oh the person with the long nails prancing around like a complete prat? How... undignified!

Thats the one - I watched Salty Crackers video on it on YouTube which is really funny but dont want to risk posting here

Slightly off topic, but it’s a shame that the Star Wars shop doesn’t have an online retail option. I’d have loved to support him by getting a few of his t-shirts.

@QueenPeary

As for using your stated pronouns (if any) to infer your gender, I thought that was the point of them? Apart from the political signalling, pronoun-declarers do it to state their “gender” (not their sex) so they’d be happy for it to be inferred from the pronouns they choose to display. Surely they won’t be offended by that as well?

They probably won't be. But one of the arguments they make to us is that it's totally harmless and it's just so people know how to refer to you. (That it's obvious in most cases would contract their ideology, of course, so that's the argument.)

By 'inferring gender' Linkedin are making it very clear that picking 'she/her' is signalling not just 'please refer to me as she when I'm not present' but 'I have a ladybrain and feminine genderfeels'.

No thank you.

@LadyGAgain

Fuck off Linked In

My thoughts exactly. I went through all my connections a few months ago and deleted all the people (all women as it happened) with pronouns. There only 5 at that time. I guess I'd better do another sweep as it's probably catching...

if i was to get an application form with pronouns on or see someones linkedin profile showing same I wouldnt even consider them as I'd know what kind of nightmare they would be once through the door

When I'm recruiting, I automatically put any pronouned applications in the bin. Either they're a gender ideologue, or a blind follower, neither of which would be suited to the roles I hire for.

Ditto with speculative emails - nope. Big nope.

Are Linkedin escalating? 😲

This woman has had her linkedin erased without warning. her history, her links, her likes everything. She can't get a job without a linkedin account

@tealou

I’ll note. I did absolutely nothing except talk about digital agency corruption. And link to an article on MY WEBSITE that happens to mention ROGD.

11 years of professional life… gone.

Not even an email or a reason. Thanks @LinkedIn

This is not just "naughty corner" stuff. This is cutting you off from employment, or be found by recruiters. It prevents you from networking for business and finding clients. All because you might say something American corporations arbitrarily disagree with. Hell no.

twitter.com/tealou/status/1458766873672052738

that's bloody chilling
I get so irritated with LinkedIn's pronoun display that I use it a lot less these days. I was pondering a (gentle but factual) anti-pronouns post on there but might not be the time for that right now

@Tesla73

I can see this being a help to prospective employers: if i was to get an application form with pronouns on or see someones linkedin profile showing same I wouldnt even consider them as I'd know what kind of nightmare they would be once through the door.

So in a way they are doing employers a favour.

Also what the hell has pronouns got to do with the working world? What bearing does this have on your ability to do a job or advertise yourself to the working world?

I was always taught keep your application form or CV relevant and keep to the basics - should my CV now detail my sexual orientation, marital status, how many kids I've got, am I a cat or a dog person, favourite musical genres, what parents I still have living?

@Tesla73 Yes, depending on the industry you work in. The idea of a person as a 'brand' is quite prominent in some areas. A photo, information about hobbies, pets or a rainbow flag fleshes out the person and could give someone an advantage, or disadvantage depending on who's looking at it. I think including a photo raises all kinds of problems. In competitive job markets, it is no longer about who can actually do the job the best. On top of that, they also want to find the right fit for the company, its mission or values and the message it wants to send to the world about itself. They want to find someone who will fit into their existing company culture, so this extra information is all about doing that to entice recruiters.

I got a flag today about a new job being advertised.

So they want folks to apply - strongly encouraged if... of colour (note English spelling), lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans, non binary, q, veteran (again - a UK job) , parent AND individuals with disabilities (I could alter my CV I guess to tick most of those boxes).

Also invited to state my preferred pronouns (which were f**/my/life by the time I read all that). They want a world free of misogyny (it’s the smoking of our generation don’t you know). Oh and ‘women make the first move’. Pretty mixed messages there.

For a dating site - that much be a bloody car crash trying to filter that lot out.

Gonna give it a miss...

@WeeTorag that’s so funny, I did exactly the same thing last week. Mind you there weren’t many, I was pleased to see that. A few men too actually.
2 of my very good friends use pronouns. I deleted them too.

@AssassinatedBeauty

The only people I have seen with pronouns in their linked in profile are men who give he/him pronouns and are obviously male. I question the use or point of men making their male status explicit.

It feels a bit like a pissing contest to prove their masculinity

Whenever I see pronouns I just constitute them with (slytherin/remainer) as they are just as arbitary/political. I see SO many on my linkedin feed now, it makes me very sad to think people think it makes them look good.

[quote WillyWollyWandy]@WeeTorag that’s so funny, I did exactly the same thing last week. Mind you there weren’t many, I was pleased to see that. A few men too actually.
2 of my very good friends use pronouns. I deleted them too.[/quote]
Ha funny @WillyWollyWandy. I'm finding loads more by scrolling right down the feed, they really pop out. Mostly men. Bearded men. 🤷‍♀️

It has just occurred to me that any push, however light, for people to disclosure of any protected characteristics could be seen as an infringement of their rights. And ppl asked to put pronouns could decline saying they do not wish to disclosure to the public their protected characteristics.

Is this sound? I’m going to post on all the pronouns threads to check.

Should You Declare Your Pronouns? A Simple Guide
filia.org.uk/latest-news/2021/12/1/should-you-declare-your-pronouns-a-simple-guide