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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Boys school and Transgirls

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OurMamInHavianas · 11/08/2021 01:35

I’m wondering if a transgirl can apply to a all-boys school?
Don’t girls typically perform better in exams in primary/early secondary, so any entrance exam or 11 plus/12 plus/13 plus exams would favour a female-born person.
So, we could end up with some boys’ school being populated with a large percentage of female-born people?

Just asking out of interest - this doesn’t affect me or my family personally.

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Theeyeballsinthesky · 12/08/2021 16:34

Quite Tibtom, if the school really believed those girls have become boys, then they should not be in a single sexed girls schools

But of course they don’t really believe that at all. I imagine they just smile & nod along to using male pronouns, using a male name & letting them wear male school inform - and cross their fingers & hope that if they start doing the binder/medication route they can claim they didn’t know about it or that they’ll leave school before they start doing it

Nachthex · 12/08/2021 21:05

I have a trans DD (who wants to be a boy) and she wanted to go to a boys' school for 6th form! We obviously said no. However it turned out she had already approached the boys' without us knowing. Iinterestingly in discussion with the boys' school (and this is one of the country's top boys' schools) they said that they woulddn't have had any problems accepting 'him' (my DD)

Boys' schools often used to take girls in the 6th form as girls' schools sometimes didn't teach some of the subjects girls wanted to study. Or some simply opened up their 6th form to girls anyway - Westminster public school did, maybe does still.

NewlyGranny · 12/08/2021 21:47

Whereabouts in the ERA 2010 does male privilege get listed then?

Very much a case of, "We'll hang on to what's always been ours while taking what's briefly been yours, too, and there's nothing you can do about it."

ifIwerenotanandroid · 12/08/2021 21:51

@PinkPlantCase

The 11+ exam generally favours boys. Even in the mixed grammar schools in our area there are more boys than girls because they tend to get higher test score on the types of questions in the 11+
In the past, girls performed better than boys in the 11+ so the results were fiddled without telling the general public, to avoid more girls than boys going to grammar schools. The truth didn't come out for decades.

At the same time, in general society, girls were being told they weren't as intelligent as boys. Gotta love the patriarchy.

Doublestar · 12/08/2021 21:58

Yes, I've wondered about this. Doesn't really seem to be happening yet - funny that innit?

One way traffic....

kowari · 12/08/2021 22:06

Single sex schools are just that, gender is irrelevant.

DdraigGoch · 12/08/2021 23:54

In the past, girls performed better than boys in the 11+ so the results were fiddled without telling the general public, to avoid more girls than boys going to grammar schools. The truth didn't come out for decades.

At the same time, in general society, girls were being told they weren't as intelligent as boys. Gotta love the patriarchy.

Just seen an interesting article in the Telegraph on that subject:
www.telegraph.co.uk/education-and-careers/2021/08/12/girls-really-brainier-boys-science-has-clear-clever-answer/

In short, there's not really any difference between male and female brains, differences in attainment are explained by socialisation. Things like what toys, activities and behaviours are encouraged for boys and girls respectively.

PickUpAPepper · 13/08/2021 04:00

That's a good article. The old idea that human babies are born prematurely so that their brains develop, meaning neurons connect, in a social and cultural context really ought to be better known by now. Among humans, culture dictates the futures of people from birth, not biology.

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