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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Trans prisoners in Ireland: update

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SuperSleepyBaby · 04/08/2021 23:29

Update here
www.lawsociety.ie/gazette/top-stories/prison-officers-must-train-up-in-lgbt-awareness-and-terminology/

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NiceGerbil · 06/08/2021 22:17

It's out there somewhere I'll try to find it.

NiceGerbil · 06/08/2021 22:21

One item- archive.is/Ns0Pj.

Note that I was on threads when BK started gaining attention and I can confirm that most pieces have vanished from the search engines.

NiceGerbil · 06/08/2021 22:28

Well I only checked 2 tbf!

The other one had a little more than Google but not much.

Just thought- anyone got access to dark web? That has anything, not like eg Google where they hide links.

Although, it seems the actual sites were told to take down so that wouldn't work. Which is way more effort than approaching Google and maybe a couple of others. The fact they went direct to sites shows they had thought about it and were prepared to spend time searching all pieces out from multiple sites and then approaching them all individually.

Which means it was massive importance to them.

Even though it's not their remit at all.

Mulletsaremisunderstood · 07/08/2021 10:51

@NiceGerbil

One item- archive.is/Ns0Pj.

Note that I was on threads when BK started gaining attention and I can confirm that most pieces have vanished from the search engines.

Thanks for this, I wonder what the High Court order was about. Usually it is about minors, or keeping the names of victims out of the public. But they is nothing like that.

This is so true:

It is our contention, and belief, that Tusla’s desire to hide the Barbie Kardashian story from public view has little to nothing to do with child protection, which is their remit. Barbie Kardashian, after all, is an adult – and was an adult at all times when her story was covered by Gript.
In their letter to us, they provided no rationale to support their assertion that there is a public interest in keeping the story secret.
No. This appears – to our eyes – to be much more about an arm of the state, faced with defending an action that most citizens would find disturbing and absurd – placing a biological male who wants to rape women in a prison with women – deciding to abuse the legal process to hide the facts of an embarrassing story from the public.

I'm so angry at the government and its various agencies for all perpetuating this crap.

Artichokeleaves · 07/08/2021 11:22

I sat in a meeting once where a LA person talked about how unfortunate it was that the baby P disaster had 'escaped' into the press, and how this was viewed as an LA failure. He said these incidents happen all the time in all LAs, and mostly such 'failures' are intentionally and carefully kept from publicity.

When these things get into the press there's uproar, outrage, calls for things to be done, expensive inquiries and white papers written. The status quo is threatened.

Mulletsaremisunderstood · 07/08/2021 11:45

@Artichokeleaves

I sat in a meeting once where a LA person talked about how unfortunate it was that the baby P disaster had 'escaped' into the press, and how this was viewed as an LA failure. He said these incidents happen all the time in all LAs, and mostly such 'failures' are intentionally and carefully kept from publicity.

When these things get into the press there's uproar, outrage, calls for things to be done, expensive inquiries and white papers written. The status quo is threatened.

That's so sad. How low have they set the bar that basic accountability for obvious failures is just seen as an embarrassment.

I have no faith in the governments ability to adequately protect or care about women's rights in Ireland. They have demonstrated time and time again that they are not up to the job.

The problem is there are very few alternatives on the ballot these days. It's like picking between a piece of shit and a lump of crap Sad.

IrishMna · 09/08/2021 12:33

There are 3 TW in Irish Women’s jails. BK, child rapist and a TW who fractured a man’s skull after drinking (this person also has lots of other charges pending).

A 4th TW is housed in the male estate as this TW doesn’t have a GRC. Convicted of handling and making CSA images. There is no reason in our law that would prohibit them from obtaining a GRC while in the men’s estate.

InvisibleDragon · 09/08/2021 14:52

Are all 3 of those trans women housed in Limerick prison? If so, according to the Wikipedia statement that it has capacity for 20 female prisoners, that means that 15% of its occupants are trans.

IrishMna · 09/08/2021 15:21

All 3 in Limerick. The bed capacity is 28 (using the overflow rooms). It’s one of the most overcrowded jail in Ireland. Still a significant %

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