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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Physical differences between the male and female body that justify sex-segregated sport. Shall we make a list?

45 replies

flashbac · 02/08/2021 23:18

The ones I know of:

  • Males have bigger lungs
  • Increased bone density
  • Male pelvis shape making angle of legs straighter hence increasing running speed and stamina
  • more muscle mass
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Whatsnewpussyhat · 02/08/2021 23:21

We shouldn't have to justify it at all.

Everyone on the planet knows why sports are segregated by sex.

We know the difference between males and females.

Some people want to pretend that a subset of males suddenly stop being male by saying some words.

They can fuck off.

SisterMonicaJoansHabit · 02/08/2021 23:26

Sure. Make a list. Under the sex and gender topic Biscuit

ErrolTheDragon · 03/08/2021 00:11

Stronger skulls - relevant to the extra danger to women of contact sport if mixed sex.

NiceGerbil · 03/08/2021 03:08

No.

There should have been justification before the rules were changed.

The whole world knows that men in general are bigger and stronger etc than women.

Lists won't do anything.

Theeyeballsinthesky · 03/08/2021 07:00

I think this has what you need ;)

Physical differences between the male and female body that justify sex-segregated sport. Shall we make a list?
ErrolTheDragon · 03/08/2021 08:32

@NiceGerbil

No.

There should have been justification before the rules were changed.

The whole world knows that men in general are bigger and stronger etc than women.

Lists won't do anything.

Well, yes,

Chesterton's fence.

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 03/08/2021 08:36

@SisterMonicaJoansHabit

Sure. Make a list. Under the sex and gender topic Biscuit
Why?

I mean its been moved obviously

But why can’t this stay on aibu?

(Or wherever it was…)

Is there to be no mention of the sex based differences between men and women on any other thread…what about the housework etc threads

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 03/08/2021 08:37

Pay gap

Can’t talk about that on any other thread

Education? Nope…

ArabellaScott · 03/08/2021 08:58

@SisterMonicaJoansHabit

Sure. Make a list. Under the sex and gender topic Biscuit
So, feminists are not allowed to discuss sex differences on this board?
ArabellaScott · 03/08/2021 08:59

Feminists! Talk about whatever you like, but don't ever allude to the fact there are two sexes, or we'll throw biscuits at you and demand your thread is sent to the gulag!

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind · 03/08/2021 09:02

@SisterMonicaJoansHabit

Sure. Make a list. Under the sex and gender topic Biscuit
Are you a woman?

Because I literally cannot understand any woman who isn't interested in what is happening to women's sports right now. I won't risk a ban by saying what I think.

I can't understand men who don't give a shit either. Decent men do care.

But women who don't care or go along with this shit... like I said, I'd better shut up.

Aroundtheworldin80moves · 03/08/2021 09:07

Average height.
Changes in performance in menstrual cycle
Being able to train without abuse

ErrolTheDragon · 03/08/2021 09:08

It's bloody ironic.

No spaces segregated by sex for women. Not sports, not hospital wards, not prisons.

Oh, except internet discussion boards, where women wanting to talk about such things must be firmly corralled.

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind · 03/08/2021 09:13

@ErrolTheDragon

It's bloody ironic.

No spaces segregated by sex for women. Not sports, not hospital wards, not prisons.

Oh, except internet discussion boards, where women wanting to talk about such things must be firmly corralled.

Quite!

Straight over to the naughty step.

No idea where this thread started, was it fem chat? Wish that one had just been called handmaidens.

One last time: there is nothing more intrinsic to feminism than biological sex.

ErrolTheDragon · 03/08/2021 09:38

I think it started in fem chat. And it's not really fair to characterise everything there as 'handmaidenish' - obviously a lot of it is fundamentally about women and their inherent as well as imposed differences from men anyway. Can't not be.

But policing with a biscuit is rather petty and tedious.

FemaleAndLearning · 03/08/2021 09:40

How about these.
And Fair Play for Women have resources.fairplayforwomen.com/campaigns/sports-campaign/

Physical differences between the male and female body that justify sex-segregated sport. Shall we make a list?
Physical differences between the male and female body that justify sex-segregated sport. Shall we make a list?
ArabellaScott · 03/08/2021 09:44

I think Ross Tucker 'Science of Sport' wrote quite a lot on the sex differences.

twitter.com/Scienceofsport

Helleofabore · 03/08/2021 09:45

Feminists! Talk about whatever you like, but don't ever allude to the fact there are two sexes, or we'll throw biscuits at you and demand your thread is sent to the gulag!

So, it is really… feminists, say what you want but if you are feministing in a way I don’t like, I will offer you inferior biscuits in hope that you will go away.

And if you don’t do what I want you to do I will complain. Loudly! Because you can only feminist the way I want you to feminist.

StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind · 03/08/2021 09:48

@ErrolTheDragon it's not the content of the board that I would characterise as 'handmaidenish'- it was their objection to having one board, the way we were siphoned off to this board, the accusations of us as being bigots for thinking that we'd not gender is what matters. It basically feels that we have a separation now, of lib fem and rad fem- and I do tend to think of lib fems as handmaidens. Put it this way- no one who spends the majority of the time on this board is going to make a fuss about moving a thread that supposedly 'fits' the other board from here. Because really, all these issues belong together.

I'm in a very very bad mood with all of this bullshit right now- cannot fathom supposed feminists that want to ignore everything happening at the olympics.

Helleofabore · 03/08/2021 09:49

@Aroundtheworldin80moves

Average height. Changes in performance in menstrual cycle Being able to train without abuse
We were told last night on the AiBU thread that menstrual cycles were no disadvantage to female sports people. And should not be considered a factor in segregation of sports by sex because not all women have menstrual cycles.

I think my eyes rolled around the back of my head then.

Oblomov21 · 03/08/2021 09:56

Eyeball list is good.
We all know that we don't even need a list. The whole thing is ridiculous.

Mulletsaremisunderstood · 03/08/2021 09:57

It's so sad how many women don't seem to know or care about this, and act like we are hysterical harpies for wanting to discuss anything about gender ideology and how it affects us.

There are none so blind as those that will not see!

psed · 03/08/2021 21:02

Not relevant physically, but I’m not sure of
the respective funding provided for men’s and women’s sports. I’m guessing it’s not equal. Charlotte Worthington was initially denied funding.

Waitwhat23 · 03/08/2021 21:09

@StrawberryLipstickStateOfMind I think of the Feminism:chat board as 'Feminism:Lite'. There are some interesting discussions certainly but no moves to do any activism or change anything in a material way. This board feels purposeful in a way the chat board doesn't.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 03/08/2021 21:17

Good idea, flashbac. I think earlier comments and graphics have covered most points. I’d just suggest looking at boysvswomen.com to see the results in unmistakeable colour.

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