James O'Brien discussing Lauren Hubbard NOW

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@Rainbowshit

Laurel Hubbard has in the past lifted more than the lift that won the gold, so could easily have dominated.

Laurel made a transparently pathetic attempt at the lift. The whole demeanour was not if someone who had worked for years to get to the olympics and then couldn't perform on the day. The smirk, the giggle, the heart sign. Too smug. She threw it on purpose.

If that's right about LH having lifted more than the Gold medal winner, it demonstrates very well the lasting advantage of male puberty for sport. LH was never good enough in adult male events to get to the Olympics, and that was aged 20ish, ie in sporting prime. So a good but not world beating male can beat the best woman in the world.

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@BluebirdsSong

Laurel Hubbard failed right away. Her failure proved once and for all that the entire panic about "male advantage" and "males dominating sports" is completely unfounded.

She failed because she was shite at it and too old and the whole thing was a massive vanity project for both her and NZ. What a waste of a place. She should not have been there for many reasons.

It is my (legally protected) belief that the only way a large guy in their 40s who's had a recent broken arm is even competing at the Olympics is because he's not in the male category.

It is my belief that the Polish female European champion just didn't try hard enough to win this race at Doha.

No advantage 😂

@BluebirdsSong

Did Laurel Hubbard "dominate the sport" or not?

I would say that LH did dominate the event in the way that even after Li WenWen, Emily Campbell and Sarah Robles were setting standards and breaking records all attention was on this unprepared, second rate, out of shape underachiver.

NZ could have had a chance at putting forward a real contender but they chose to bring the sport of weight lifting and the spirit of fairness at the Olympics into disrepute instead.

@FloralBunting

Laurel Hubbard failed cos they're shit.

The fact that they were at the olympics at all is the proof of advantage.

Exactly.

I would say that LH did dominate the event in the way that even after Li WenWen, Emily Campbell and Sarah Robles were setting standards and breaking records all attention was on this unprepared, second rate, out of shape underachiver.

Yes. That interview - never mind your spectacular achievements, ladies, let’s focus on the male interloper here!

#NoThankYou.

We’re there many injured 40+ men competing in the men’s events?

And, crucially, were there any injured 40+ biologically female people identifying as men competing in the men’s events?

No. There bloody well weren’t, of course. And there never will be.

And WE ALL KNOW why that is.

Why did the two biologically female trans people at these Olympics choose to compete in the women’s category, despite not identifying as women?

How come it wasn’t too horrifically triggering for them?

If biologically female trans people can cope with competing in the women’s category, why can’t biologically male trans people cope with competing in the men’s category?

Oh, could it possibly be because they wouldn’t have stood a chance of being selected for the men’s category because they simply wouldn’t meet the standard? Surely the Olympics wouldn’t sanction something as brazen and contrary to the spirit of fairness in sport as that, surely not?

And yet…

The thing with JOB is that you know in a couple of years' time he'll be saying he was on the women's side all along.

Oh yeah, old JOBy will be claiming he played devil's advocate to help the ladies make their arguments more robust.

"Trans women are dominating women's sports by throwing on purpose!!"

Do you even hear yourself.

@BluebirdsSong

"Trans women are dominating women's sports by throwing on purpose!!"

Do you even hear yourself.

I think it's a perfectly reasonable assumption to make Unless you have any other idea as to why LH was even there?

@BluebirdsSong

Did Laurel Hubbard "dominate the sport" or not?

Hubbard must have succeeded on the selection process to get a place on Olympic team.

Hubbard dominated over a woman who didn't get the opportunity to compete for her country.

@BluebirdsSong

Laurel Hubbard failed right away. Her failure proved once and for all that the entire panic about "male advantage" and "males dominating sports" is completely unfounded.

Lol! Surely you must realise how ridiculous you sound? Have you ever watched any sport?

@BluebirdsSong

"Trans women are dominating women's sports by throwing on purpose!!"

Do you even hear yourself.

Do you? Genuine question. I've read all your posts on the thread, thought about your position as best I can, thought about my position, and come to a reasonable, legally protected conclusion - one that has care for women's rights, sporting excellence and the Olympic spirit of sporting fairness at its core.

Your position seems to centre something else.

Good News:

BBC Reality Check have reported on false and misleading media coverage of some Olympic athletes.

Bad News:

Go on, guess.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/58086586

So cheating is ok as long as you don't actually benefit from cheating 🙄

the entire panic about "male advantage" and "males dominating sports" is completely unfounded.

So no evidence of this at the Olympics? No male athlete outran, outjumped, outthrew, outswam any female athlete?

Do you think Bluebird was watching another competition?

JOBby is a complete wind vane.

@BluebirdsSong

"Trans women are dominating women's sports by throwing on purpose!!"

Do you even hear yourself.

Laurel Hubbard was 20 years older than the other competitors. Unfit and injured. That LH was able to get into the Olympic squad at all, which was otherwise composed of elite female athletes, shows how big male advantage is. The response of the other competitors at the press conference said it all - 'No thank you' to males in female sport. It's totally unfair and unnecessary - the male category is open to all and should be renamed 'open', with the female category being protected for females. Personal identity is entirely irrelevant in sport, it is only sex that matters.

@BluebirdsSong

Did Laurel Hubbard "dominate the sport" or not?

Hubbard is 43 years old. In sporting terms, that's what you'd call "past it". Now that people like you are running around shouting "look, the thin end of the wedge is blunt, what were you worrying about?", the next competitor (representing one of those oh so fair nations like Russia) will be a strapping 21 year old.