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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Telegraph: Teacher sacked for attempting to scupper trans candidate’s hopes of being head girl

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LazyViper · 29/07/2021 08:21

Sorry it’s behind a paywall. Has anyone seen this story elsewhere?

” French teacher sacked after attempting to scupper transgender candidate’s hopes of being head girl

Susan Field told tutor group she felt pupil was not ‘representative’ of the student body and that role was not ‘appropriate’ for her”

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/07/28/french-teacher-sacked-attempting-scupper-transgender-candidates/

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SetPhasersTaeMalkie · 30/07/2021 07:35

If it really didn’t matter if the kids were male or female why would schools specify a head boy and a head girl rather than just two “head children”?

From reading the report of the hearing, rather than the newspaper article it seems it wasn't a Head girl.position but a position on the school leadership team. Which is different.

SetPhasersTaeMalkie · 30/07/2021 07:36

Just reread the thread and have seen the comment upthread about a permanent ban.

Feelingmardy · 30/07/2021 07:57

*How many threads have we had from parents wanting to know how to challenge teachers who pushed the twaw mantra on their children?

How many of those teachers have been sacked?*

Absolutely and given some comments on this thread, they should all be permanently banned.

I hear that the teacher regretted her actions but I do wonder how teachers can protect our children (esp girls) in our cancel 'woke' culture (or 'sleepwalking back to the 1900's culture).. I think it is easy to see how, out of desperation to protect children, someone might say something they otherwise wouldn't.

Jorriss · 30/07/2021 08:49

I hear that the teacher regretted her actions but I do wonder how teachers can protect our children (esp girls) in our cancel 'woke' culture (or 'sleepwalking back to the 1900's culture).

I think the intention is that they don't protect children from this. Because of the threat of losing their jobs if they even try.

Jorriss · 30/07/2021 08:52

I'm not sure I'd ever describe scepticism as a knee jerk reaction! I don't trust the reporting of this incident. You do.

Indeed. Reporting is so biased these days that absolutely everything (of importance anyway) needs to double checked. And more often than not, we find we do not get the true story. Or even anything closely resembling the truth.

SetPhasersTaeMalkie · 30/07/2021 09:01

I certainly don't trust the reporting in the Telegraph. Newspapers do not understand how schools work and frequently make basic errors in their reporting. However I'm happy to accept the Professional Conduct hearing report.

Datun · 30/07/2021 09:16

@SetPhasersTaeMalkie

I certainly don't trust the reporting in the Telegraph. Newspapers do not understand how schools work and frequently make basic errors in their reporting. However I'm happy to accept the Professional Conduct hearing report.
I'm not. Especially when they are very scant on detail. And the reporter and the Telegraph both think that a head girl position was the issue, which doesn't appear to be in the hearing.

That is an inconsistency that changes the implication of the entire issue.

And given a judge ruled that a belief in biological sex, and that it matters, was an opinion not worthy of respect, my confidence in the accurate relating of these incidents is fairly low.

SetPhasersTaeMalkie · 30/07/2021 09:32

Obviously I disagree. Not the bit about biological sex but whether the newspaper article or the hearing report is more accurate.

saraclara · 30/07/2021 09:40

If you don't want teachers pushing their own ideology on to children then that should hold for all teachers and all beliefs. There shouldn't be exceptions because you happen to agree on this particular case.

Exactly.

The official hearing report is very detailed and a completely accurate account of the hearing.
Nothing short of a video recording of the lesson is going to be 100% reliable. We wouldn't need any form of legal court if everyone demanded that level of proof of any misdeed. But the report makes it clear that the accounts were challenged, considered carefully, and in one case discounted, not because anyone was lying but because there was enough ambiguity for it to not be reliable in its meaning.

I have no reason not to trust the judgment based on that account, and the teacher holds herself responsible.

Feelingmardy · 30/07/2021 14:03

Yes I think that's right. And scary.

Jorriss · 30/07/2021 14:49

And given a judge ruled that a belief in biological sex, and that it matters, was an opinion not worthy of respect, my confidence in the accurate relating of these incidents is fairly low.

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