Just when there is support for JRK...another actor...sigh...

[Pudmyboy]

From my Yahoo feed; honestly what is it with these people?
The Independent
Fantastic Beasts star Katherine Waterston says trans rights message felt ‘important to communicate’ after JK Rowling controversy
Louis Chilton
Sat, 24 July 2021, 9:27 am
Katherine Waterston, one of the leads of the Fantastic Beasts franchise, has addressed her decision to speak out in support of trans rights.
The actor, who plays the witch Tina Goldstein in the Harry Potter spin-off series, shared a post on Instagram the day after JK Rowling returned a prestigious human rights award.
Rowling gave back the Robert F Kennedy Human Rights Ripple of Hope Award last August, after the foundation’s president denounced the author’s anti-trans comments. Rowling had published a blog listing “five reasons for being worried about the new trans activism”.
Waterston then shared a Guardian article to her Instagram story with the headline: “Trans women pose no threat to cis women, but we pose a threat to them if we make them outcasts.”
Various parts were circled and underlined in red, including the sentence: “Sorry, you can’t be a feminist if you’re not for everyone’s human rights, notably other women’s human rights.”
Speaking to The Independent in a new interview, Waterston reflected on the post, saying: “Because I was associated with Fantastic Beasts, it felt important to communicate my position.
“One wondered if they might be grouped in with other people’s views by association.”
Waterston’s latest film, The World to Come, is in UK cinemas now.

@BreatheAndFocus

Trans women pose no threat to cis women, but we pose a threat to them if we make them outcasts

Yes, just like Rachel Dolezal was so cruelly made an outcast because she wasn’t black. 🙄 Just like I was made an outcast when I wasn’t allowed to enter and win the Under 8s race at my son’s Sports Day this year. God forbid anyone should be in a separate category from Women! Women and the category Women exist for others’ benefit. How very dare we even start to think about ourselves or define ourselves. Despicable!

And Feminism - evil, evil women suggesting it’s in any way about women. Quite clearly Feminism is for everyone else. All Lives Matter, right?

Idiot woman. She’ll be laughed at when this all comes crashing down. Meanwhile, her new film is crap. She’s the worse thing in it. Save your pennies.

Surely if you identify as an under 8, live as an under 8 year old for a year and change the age on your birth certificate you'll be allowed to compete- otherwise that's discrimination!

@WineAcademy

When the strike books come out as a series (who knows, I'm speculating!), the actors' contracts should include a no backstabbing clause.

I have so much contempt for these people.

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@BreatheAndFocus

Trans women pose no threat to cis women, but we pose a threat to them if we make them outcasts

Yes, just like Rachel Dolezal was so cruelly made an outcast because she wasn’t black. 🙄 Just like I was made an outcast when I wasn’t allowed to enter and win the Under 8s race at my son’s Sports Day this year. God forbid anyone should be in a separate category from Women! Women and the category Women exist for others’ benefit. How very dare we even start to think about ourselves or define ourselves. Despicable!

And Feminism - evil, evil women suggesting it’s in any way about women. Quite clearly Feminism is for everyone else. All Lives Matter, right?

Idiot woman. She’ll be laughed at when this all comes crashing down. Meanwhile, her new film is crap. She’s the worse thing in it. Save your pennies.

This is what I meant to quote! Gah.

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@Cheshirewife

I find many of the responses on this thread genuinely abhorrent.

You are perfectly entitled to disagree with KW’s opinion. However, she has every right to hold and voice that opinion. The constant threads trying to silence people are ignorant at best and actively malevolent at worst.

A wee bit hyperbolic but OK.

@Cheshirewife

I find many of the responses on this thread genuinely abhorrent.

You are perfectly entitled to disagree with KW’s opinion. However, she has every right to hold and voice that opinion. The constant threads trying to silence people are ignorant at best and actively malevolent at worst.

It's impossible to silence these people, even if we wanted to. What's going on here is critiquing what they say. What's the problem there?

I just despair that this many women can come out with these lines betraying how very naive they are, and how blind they are to the hypocrisy in what they are saying. Although I'm fairly sure there's a panicked line of I'm a good girl, honest, despite being associated with JKR, so please don't treat me in the horrifically abusive way you treat her going on there too, which is understandable.

The constant threads trying to silence people are ignorant at best and actively malevolent at worst.
Um, who on this thread has tried to silence her?
Please don't misrepresent what we write.

Yes Hollywood actors are well known for being silenced by woman on MN 🙄

George the poet was raving about JKR in yesterday’s Saturday Times, I was wondering if there was any pushback for him on Twitter?

Cheshirewife
I find many of the responses on this thread genuinely abhorrent.
You are perfectly entitled to disagree with KW’s opinion. However, she has every right to hold and voice that opinion. The constant threads trying to silence people are ignorant at best and actively malevolent at worst.

Thanks for the permission
I am withdrawing my custom by not seeing her film, I don't see anyone trying to silence anyone, just women discussing things of interest to them.....would you highlight which bits you consider are 'trying to silence people'?

I have long believed that actors as a cohort aren't the brightest, so their self-important prattlings about matters outside their own sphere can be safely ignored.

But at the notion upthread that the poor downtrodden dears are being silenced by this board.

@Pudmyboy

I'm just going to buy JKR's books from now on, I am so sick of these people deliberately misinterpreting her, I cannot bear to watch any HP films and now the Fantastic Beasts franchise has gone the same way....wish she would write out the parts that involve those who have stabbed her in the back, but, she is better than me....

I think that a new version of the Fantastic Beasts textbook has been released (I remember the tiny paperback released years ago) but is there a book version of the trilogy?

I've never heard of her but I see from Wiki that she's 41. I guess as a jobbing actor she feels she needs to stay relevant to the rent a gob mob.

If I were Jo, I'd be putting a clause into every single one of her actors' contracts that if they make unfounded and hateful accusations against her, their royalties go to either the Volant Trust or Lumos Foundation.

@DdraigGoch, I don't know, would be good, I actually enjoyed the Cursed Child even though it is a script...I am getting more interested in her Strike novels right now.

Are they even making the next film?
I love JKR but there's no way it should've been a five film deal. 3 maybe at a push.

But after Redmayne and now Waterston selling her out (and didn't Ezra Miller?)
I'd be surprised if she even wanted to work with them again.

I had to look Katherine Waterston up on imdb as I had no idea who she was. Meh. Easy to avoid with that filmography. Seriously though, what a numpty. Talk about biting the hand that feeds you. 🙄

Again with the Independent and the editorial line that JKR's opinions are "anti trans". If that's all people get to see, there's little need for the public at large to think any deeper. It's not fair, it's not true, and it's biased reporting that twists the narrative. JKR is pro-women, not anti trans. It shouldn't be bloody verboten to say so.

So strange how this latest report drags up old news. Wonder if a PR has put this actress up to 'making her position clear' in the likelihood she'd be asked about it on the junket for this completely unrelated film and bugger it up otherwise.

Would the pressure be on a male actor to pull this shit? Don't let me down, Mads Mikkelsen

@Cheshirewife

I find many of the responses on this thread genuinely abhorrent.

You are perfectly entitled to disagree with KW’s opinion. However, she has every right to hold and voice that opinion. The constant threads trying to silence people are ignorant at best and actively malevolent at worst.

If she chooses to voice her opinion, we have the right to point out where that opinion hasn't been properly thought through. No one has tried to silence anyone, we're just challenging the statements which have been made which appear to have no basis in fact.

By the way, we also have the right to point out when the timing is a little convenient. JKR's comments were made nearly a year ago, so why has this actress decided that now is the time to speak out? Nothing to do with drumming up publicity for her new film, I'm sure...

@theThreeofWeevils

I have long believed that actors as a cohort aren't the brightest, so their self-important prattlings about matters outside their own sphere can be safely ignored.

But at the notion upthread that the poor downtrodden dears are being silenced by this board.

I've long since been of the view that someone whose main skill is reciting words written by other people is unlikely to have thought of anything interesting to say themselves.

There are notable exceptions of course (just get Brian Blessed onto the subject of apes) but generally whenever an actor wades into current affairs they embarrass themselves.

New film to promote you say? Go figure.

Found it, it was an Robert F Kennedy Human Rights organisation employee Kristopher Sharp, saying proof would be forthcoming to back up his claim that they were in the process of stripping JKR of the award BEFORE she gave it back. I wonder if it ever did come forth.

Waiting for Strike- Tom Burke 🥰
Love the TV adaptations
Think the RT comments are a bit woolly though

@Cheshirewife

I find many of the responses on this thread genuinely abhorrent.

You are perfectly entitled to disagree with KW’s opinion. However, she has every right to hold and voice that opinion. The constant threads trying to silence people are ignorant at best and actively malevolent at worst.

Can you explain why you feel such disgust and loathing for those responses?

Why do you frame strongly-worded criticism as "trying to silence" someone? Unless I've missed this actor condemning the avalanche of rape and death threats that JKR has received for defining women by biology (what words are left to describe those threats if you use 'abhorrent' for calling someone a dickhead or saying they don't understand feminism?) then KW is party by omission to an actual (rather than rhetorical) attempt to silence JKR.

Framing views you don't agree with as "trying to silence people" is totalitarian: it is those views you don't want to be heard. Actual attempts to silence are when activists try to get people sacked when they disagree with them. In many cases successfully.

@Cheshirewife

I find many of the responses on this thread genuinely abhorrent.

You are perfectly entitled to disagree with KW’s opinion. However, she has every right to hold and voice that opinion. The constant threads trying to silence people are ignorant at best and actively malevolent at worst.

JKR has received death and rape threats for holding pro - women opinions. She recently received threats of a pipe bomb in her letterbox. This actor, instead of decrying these threats, has decided to make her allegiances clear. She is entirely entitled to do that. But we don't have to applaud her for it - especially as she seems to be aligning herself with an ideology who resort to violent threats against anyone who doesn't agree with them.

I haven't seen any threats on this (or any other thread) from women who are fighting for women's rights or indeed any attempts to silence this actor. All I see is women peacefully expressing their opinions.

But that's the problem, isn't it....

@babbaloushka

I am still sore about Emma Watson, such a bright young woman taken in by all the bell ringing and virtue signalling. JKR is a formidable feminist and stands as an inspiration in her defence of women's rights.

Emma Watson was a vapid, annoying, virtue- signalling prat long before this.