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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Australian women only lesbian event not allowed.

33 replies

timeisnotaline · 17/07/2021 08:45

I am not informed enough in this space to make serious comment on whether there are legal grounds etc so I’ll just share the tweet with archive article link, to show what’s going on here. twitter.com/satirianews/status/1416286186994376708?s=21

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EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 17/07/2021 08:58

This ruling is explicitly homophobic. Horrible.

PurpleHoodie · 17/07/2021 09:05

It's homophobia.

Pure and simple.

The organisers will have to organise meetings that are informal, and held in women's private homes....with TV/live stream.

Private tupperware parties - for thousands - and all that.

Let the sexist/racist/homophobic politicians and their 100 dinner party fweeends pay the money for stadiums.

FlyPassed · 17/07/2021 09:06

Clown world

PurpleHoodie · 17/07/2021 09:06

How do you spell Australia?

Is it I-R-A-N?

Or perhaps

T-A-L-I-B-A-N?

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 17/07/2021 09:19

Very sad news. Hard to believe this new anti-gay dogma has suddenly been imposed, and not by religious fundamentalists or right-wingers, but by the trans lobby.

littlbrowndog · 17/07/2021 11:34

Lesbians not allowed to exclude men from their events

Pure homophobia

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.is/2021.07.17-025813/amp.theaustralian.com.au/nation/bid-to-exclude-people-with-penises-from-lesbian-events-unlawful/news-story/31b6a5e8c1a91569536343750bd942c5" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">archive.is/2021.07.17-025813/amp.theaustralian.com.au/nation/bid-to-exclude-people-with-penises-from-lesbian-events-unlawful/news-story/31b6a5e8c1a91569536343750bd942c5

OvaHere · 17/07/2021 11:58

@thinkingaboutLangCleg

Very sad news. Hard to believe this new anti-gay dogma has suddenly been imposed, and not by religious fundamentalists or right-wingers, but by the trans lobby.
I would argue they are religious fundamentalists just of a different stripe.
littlbrowndog · 17/07/2021 12:29

Yeah ova. I think so as well

FloralBunting · 17/07/2021 12:34

Jesus. Clown world is right. If it's baffling to you that a lesbian event would exclude males, let me make it crystal clear, once more - If you have or have ever had a cock, you are not and will never be a lesbian.

YetAnotherSpartacus · 17/07/2021 12:42

Appalling. This puts womyn in actual danger.

littlbrowndog · 17/07/2021 12:58

It’s lesbians being erased.

Wonder if this is happening to gay men

Thelnebriati · 17/07/2021 13:16

Satiria News is a satirical account; but the report is genuine.

timeisnotaline · 17/07/2021 23:13

@theinebriati I thought about explaining that re the account but the article is indeed in one of our main, more right wing, newspapers.

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FannyCann · 17/07/2021 23:25

Just for comparison sake let's remind ourselves what happened when a gay group decided to exclude females (albeit identifying as men).

twitter.com/onlyindieradio/status/1020422627825995776?s=21

Australian women only lesbian event not allowed.
FannyCann · 17/07/2021 23:28

And another screenshot from the item.

Australian women only lesbian event not allowed.
SoftDay · 18/07/2021 00:58

I believe David Bennett actually popped in here to say hello when there was a thread about that at the time, Fanny. Nice bloke, as I recall!

His response to the demand for obeisance to the genderist dogma is a master class in how it should be done.

NotYourCisterinAus · 18/07/2021 03:11

Back into the closet for lesbians in Tasmania. How progressive. Sad

Megasausagehead · 18/07/2021 03:17

I must say, I don't get it.

I don't understand to any extent how this is considered in any way just or fair. It is so ridiculous that it is an insult to anyone with a modicum of intelligence.

Thinking that actual lesbians want to include people with penises. It's like once they added gender reassignment to equalities considerations, everyone else's rights were deleted.

NiceGerbil · 18/07/2021 03:20

I can only find it on LGB alliance Twitter and the piece linked.

I'm surprised it's not got more hits seeing as it's a govt thing.

Taking it as face value I'm dismayed.

In the past this has been done by targeting venues to get them not to host, and getting loads of people to bombard them.

A decision like this from a govt person is different.

NotYourCisterinAus · 18/07/2021 07:43

There's an article on it 8n the Launceston Examiner (behind a pay wall so I'm going on the headline).

I'm not surprised that the story is only appearing in The Australian. Trans stories tend to disappear behind a woke wall of silence in the Australian media. The ABC (our national broadcaster) only has stunning-and-brave fluff pieces about Janet who used to be John and who can now play women's rugby, or "men" who give birth. I'm reduced to being a cranky old woman yelling at the TV screen. (And more seriously, it has lead me to question EVERYTHING from sources I used to trust.)

CardinalLolzy · 18/07/2021 08:52

What's interesting is the law she quotes on order to ban this which I would say is reaching quite a lot - they might have to establish someone's sex in a way that would lead to insult, humiliation etc.

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In her decision, Ms Bolt said the application sought to go further than exemptions granted in other states by “requiring people to provide intimate information about their body to gain access to the proposed events”.
“This is problematic as it may result in potential breaches of the act under section 17, which makes offensive, humiliating, intimidating, insulting and ridiculing conduct on the basis of gender, gender identity and intersex variations of sex characteristics ­unlawful,” Ms Bolt ruled.
“I consider the risk of unlawful conduct under such an exemption … to be significant. As I see it, an exemption should not be granted in circumstances where the conduct permitted could foreseeably be in contradiction with the principles of the act.”

Naunet · 18/07/2021 09:11

So the Freemasons are allowed to exclude women, but lesbians aren’t allowed to exclude men?

FannyCann · 18/07/2021 10:06

I don't know about Australia but in the U.K. as I understand it the single sex exemption is allowable on a case by case system?(Happy to be corrected). This hardly fills one with confidence for how such a system could work.

NiceGerbil · 20/07/2021 02:55

UK the law allows for orgs etc to have a blanket exemption.

Unfortunately loads of orgs were advised otherwise by... Various groups etc.

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