Another tweak that shows the division that mumsnet imposed isn't actually what users want

[stumbledin]

There have been so many complaints that dividing the boards isn't something the majority of posters what, that MNHQ have done a little tweak.

If you look at the heading to the thread, ie Sex & Gender you will now see just under it a link to take you straight to the other board.

Which just further undermines the arguement that so many want some sort of split.

I like the tweak. makes life easier for the terminally lazy like me.

Related to this, a suggestion in Site Stuff for a 'view all' type of option - which posters on there have said would also be useful on other boards eg SN. Basically an easy way to see all threads on subtopics at once.

Would it be feasible to have a : All view? www.mumsnet.com/Talk/site_stuff/4279241-would-it-be-feasible-to-have-a-board-name-all-view

Thank you.

It confuses me.

On my android phone I just have both open within the tab group.

It’s the same on the other board, a link straight to sex & gender.

I like it tbh.

Maybe they'll count the clicks on those links ...

Unfortunately I use the app which doesn't have space for extra links.

Sounds like a good idea. It was difficult to navigate to Feminist Chat before and honestly frustrating as on the occasions when I have checked it out, there are some threads I’m interested in. I’d love a button that meant that there was a choice to see them merged even better, but that might be too much to hope for.

I like the tweak.
Before it took too many clicks to go and look at the other board.
This will make it easier (lazy).

I think the suggestion to see them merged would be useful too and not just for the two Feminism boards - there are other topics e.g. Education where I find myself looking at one board after another, and a "view all" would be sensible.

I really like the tweak. I'm a bit confused as to why it isn't on the FemChat board as well

ItsAll I see it on both boards. Can hop merrily from one to the other.

I don't have the link on chat to S&G.

I do have one between Telly addicts and the Film board though 🤔

Agree it's an improvement - I could forsee me just not bothering as little of interest is being posted on the Chat board. I would much prefer an option to see threads from both boards integrated because I still think l won't bother unless all these wonderful threads and discussions that heve been squeezed out turn up soon.
Humans are intrinsically lazy.

@EndoplasmicReticulum

ItsAll I see it on both boards. Can hop merrily from one to the other.

Odd. I only had it on S&G (linking to chat). Checked on desktop and had it both ways. Back to mobile and don't have it at all

I'm an idiot

On mobile view the link only appears at the top of threads, not on the main thread list page.

Tbh I don't personally find the change operationally annoying in any way, and don't care from that pov whether there's a 'view all' or a link button etc. My only concern is what the motivations behind the change were, and the effects the change may have on traffic to the board.

I dont know why you are all being so "grateful" for this concession.

It is clear that them doing this and the request to merge all the topics just shows how profoundly stupid this is.

Or it is a deliberate attempt to try and create a divide.

The only people it please is the tiny minority who go on and on about how intimidating it is that not everyone wants to talk about what they want.

Seriously dont be bought of by this deceit. It is a clear indication there is no need to split the board.

Also that they continue to do things behind their back. So if you are a good girl and go behind everyone's back and make a suggestion on site stuff, you get listened to. But they dont have the integrity to actually ask the users of the boards what they think.

It is all so underhand and unsisterly.

I think it's a good thing. Any time I have tried to post about a non gender related feminist issue it gets almost no responses. Maybe it will encourage discussion on the feminism board.

I'm mostly unimpressed that the change appears to have been achieved by email lobbying rather than open discussion, but here we are. I'm not grateful but I'm pragmatic and, now I've had time to think it through, I think that, if the new board does bring in fresh posters and new topics as some are predicting then I think that will be good for us all. I would be very surprised if some of the new visitors to Chat didn't pop across to see why Sex and Gender ID is The hot topic in feminism right now. Why wouldn't they? And if the new posters don't materialise then I imagine the Chat board will peter out as other boards on FWR have done.

Either way, I hope to keep on talking on here for as long as I can, especially if it continues to annoy some people.

I don't think the navigation tweak is quite what was requested but it looks helpful me and it works in both directions (I'm on a laptop at the moment, don't know about about the app.)

One concern for me is that The Rules seem to apply to one board and not the other which looks likely to catch some people out, especially new posters.

I think it's a nice change. The topics that are most popular on the new identity board are sometimes baffling. 400 posts about (in "GC" terms) two males fighting.
This wasn't unusual before when it was labeled feminism chat. If you want to have a days long discussion about two men fighting great, but it's not the leading edge of feminism in the UK today you might think it is.

I think the 'view all' within a topic group wood be an excellent idea, and very useful on the education boards.

Or, better still, having links to all the other boards in that topic on a clicky link to each.

Gingerkittykat - so you want to punish all contributers because topics that you think should get a response dont.

The need to blame everyone else for something that is in fact caused by either people being to lazy to post or just not being interested.

Either someone is interested in a topic or they are not. What's it got to do with other topics posted.

lespionniers - 400 posts about (in "GC" terms) two males fighting - you may have that flippant response but actually it is about the potential threat to both men and women of a judge say sex by deception isn't a crime (which other courts have said it is) and is of concern to women although this case is about men. You not think its important but that just says something about you. Though agree there probably is a point on any thread where it is just the same thing being said over and over again. So next time there is a long thread why not try and adjust your view as to why some might think it is an issue. You not thinking it is an issue just says something about you - or you haven't understood the implications.

It doesn't work on the mobile version unless you open a thread first. I am finding the split annoying, I can see why it's been done but I think 'view all" would be better. I was perfectly happy with a single board though.

It says something about me! You shoehorned that in twice there.
Try and adjust my view?

People are not really surprised the board needed opening up.

I like the fact that we can switch back and forth. I also notice that the 'feminism' board has far fewer active threads than this one.