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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Joanna Cherry to represent Marion Miller

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WouldBeGood · 24/06/2021 13:17

That’s the news!

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UmpteenthTime · 24/06/2021 22:09

It’s great news but preaching to the converted here.
I hope this case receives the proper mainstream media attention it deserves.
The Scottish media can be woefully silent.
In the run up to the most recent Scottish elections, my Scottish family and friends seemed to have little or no idea about the SNP/ Green stance.
There is so much resting on this, most of all for Marion obviously but it needs to be kept in the mainstream spotlight

WouldBeGood · 24/06/2021 22:10

Apparently it was reported on STV tonight?

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UmpteenthTime · 24/06/2021 22:25

Good to hear.

Lisz · 25/06/2021 13:33

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BlackForestCake · 25/06/2021 14:00

Looks like folx are fabricating quotes and passing them on to gullible D-list celebs to retweet.

Sexnotgender · 25/06/2021 14:17

Excellent news. JC is an absolute legend.

Mibbiesaye · 25/06/2021 14:21

It has been covered in The Herald today.

@Lisz are you not at all suspicious why they haven't just retweeted the original tweets?

RoyalCorgi · 25/06/2021 14:25

@Lisz are you not at all suspicious why they haven't just retweeted the original tweets?

Quite! I was going to say the same thing. The gullibility of some people never ceases to astound me.

InspiralCoalescenceRingdown · 25/06/2021 14:28

@BlackForestCake

Looks like folx are fabricating quotes and passing them on to gullible D-list celebs to retweet.
I think it's one step up from outright fabricating quotes. It's slicing and dicing and removing context.

One of the more robustly phrased tweets is in reference to Aaron Campbell, who raped and murdered six-year-old Alesha MacPhail. I'm personally morally opposed to the death penalty, but Miller's comments are very similar to comments I've heard from other people in person, in response to horrific crimes.

Obviously TRAs have stripped it of all context and I suppose are trying to suggest Miller is referring to a trans person.

InspiralCoalescenceRingdown · 25/06/2021 14:30

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ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 25/06/2021 14:32

YY. The "quotes" to that are being passed around were technically tweeted by Marion, but they are being presented without context, and with the tweet itself edited. That thread linked to above handily goes to an archive of the original tweets (although much of the context has been deleted).

Fairly sure if Marion was a transphobic bigot that Joanna Cherry would not be risking her reputation by choosing to defend her.

Finally, this is a live case so probably should not be risking prejudicing anything.

Mibbiesaye · 25/06/2021 14:35

I didn't realise some of the tweets refered to the Alesha MacPhail case. How dreadful to use tweets about her murder in this way.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 25/06/2021 14:37

@Mibbiesaye

I didn't realise some of the tweets refered to the Alesha MacPhail case. How dreadful to use tweets about her murder in this way.
Many of the tweets are in no way related to trans people but are still being presented out of context as transphobic hate crime.

Some people are obviously concerned that Marion is going to have an excellent legal team.

RedDogsBeg · 25/06/2021 14:42

[quote RoyalCorgi]**@Lisz are you not at all suspicious why they haven't just retweeted the original tweets?

Quite! I was going to say the same thing. The gullibility of some people never ceases to astound me.[/quote]
TRAs and truth are not even remotely acquainted.

Wallpapering · 25/06/2021 14:46

What you suggesting Lisz, but first given who is representing Marion I’d want to make sure had full facts ya know slander and all that and you be wrong if think can hide behind MN

DialSquare · 25/06/2021 14:56

@InspiralCoalescenceRingdown

Just to be clear, here, *@Lisz* is using the (completely unrelated to trans issues) rape and murder of a six-year-old girl to score political points.

Make of that what you will.

Yep. To almost quote Lisz, makes me sick. How anyone could do this, i've no idea.
PurpleHoodie · 25/06/2021 15:00

Inspiral

Thank you for the context.

Sexnotgender · 25/06/2021 15:01

@Mibbiesaye

It has been covered in The Herald today.

@Lisz are you not at all suspicious why they haven't just retweeted the original tweets?

Indeed. Context is everything.
Erikrie · 25/06/2021 15:02

Millar makes me sick. How you can cheer this on i've no idea.

Probably best to look at the archives to see what she is refering to, rather than just taking her words out of context and using them in isolation. It's always best to see the bigger picture.

Sophoclesthefox · 25/06/2021 15:02

@PurpleHoodie

Inspiral

Thank you for the context.

Yes, thanks for that, I hadn’t realised quite what a sleight of hand had been performed on the supposed archived bundle of tweets.
yourhairiswinterfire · 25/06/2021 15:09

YY. The "quotes" to that are being passed around were technically tweeted by Marion, but they are being presented without context, and with the tweet itself edited. That thread linked to above handily goes to an archive of the original tweets (although much of the context has been deleted).

I find it fascinating how it's seemingly perfectly acceptable (to some) for wrong thinking women to have to put up with all of the following:

-threats of rape
-threats of death
-threats of having their jaws booted off (curb stomping)
-gun threats
-homophobic abuse/sexual harassment
-being punched in the head for attending a meeting
-threats of the venues where they plan to hold meetings being bombed
-being reported to the police and arrested in front of their children for calling someone a pig
-being discriminated against and sacked for believing in biological sex
-suffering threats so severe they have to hire security to escort them around Uni, or hire security for their homes

...and that's all hand waved away like it's nothing. It doesn't count.

Yet a woman says something (and as always, it's taken out of context to suit the narrative) and that's what's sickening?

Hmm
ScreamingMeMe · 25/06/2021 18:49

@InspiralCoalescenceRingdown

Just to be clear, here, *@Lisz* is using the (completely unrelated to trans issues) rape and murder of a six-year-old girl to score political points.

Make of that what you will.

How low can some people go? Angry
Erikrie · 25/06/2021 18:52

Just to be clear, here, @Lisz is using the (completely unrelated to trans issues) rape and murder of a six-year-old girl to score political points.

And that's important to know.

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