Scotsman: 150+ Scottish Greens demand repeal of prostitution act

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www.scotsman.com/news/politics/green-members-urge-party-not-to-deal-with-transphobic-snp-3284120

In amongst the usual bilge about not going into coalition with the SNP because they are "dangerously radicalised" to be transphobic, some Scottish Greens are also demanding the Scottish Government "repeal the Prostitution Act of 2007, which criminalised the sale of sex in public because of an “over-prevalence of the trans community amongst people who sell sex, due to housing issues, lack of employment possibilities and social discrimination”."

I thought this was an interesting take. Is there any evidence in the UK that this is true?

Prostitution is a trans issue?

Maybe the Scottish Greens haven't noticed that there is an "over -prevalence" of one sex class "amongst people who sell sex". I would imagine they also face housing issues, lack of employment possibilities, social discrimination as well as many other difficulties.

Well, if we avoid a SNP/Greens coalition this will put an interesting spin on things.

If the SNP can't form a coalition with the Greens, they won't have a majority. So, not sure quite what effect that will have on the SNP government, but I doubt it will be positive.

It will put them in a different position - held hostage by a tiny cabal of extremists within a very fringe party.

Interesting.

Hold on so the Greens are basically saying if you are trans we are not going to make sure you have access to housing and freedom from discrimination in employment (which in the UK everyone has) instead we want you to sell your body?

Whaaaaaaaaat?

They have gone mad.

It's an issue definitely in USA and Brazil

... it turns out the high rates of violence against transpeople in those countries is causally driven by their work in prostitution rather than them being trans

Seems to me more sensible to
A) is this replicated in Scotland?
B) if yes , look to solve the underlying problems

I thought this was an interesting take. Is there any evidence in the UK that this is true?

I suspect solid, verifiable evidence pertinent to the UK will be hard to find, like a lot of the other hyperbolic claims pushed by trans activists.

Even if it were true, surely it's better to tackle the "housing issues, lack of employment possibilities and social discrimination” rather than leaving trans people to fend for themselves in the seedy underworld of prostitution. 🤦🏿‍♀️

Also the argument i think I read in the Scotsman just now was they claim criminalisation of people who pay for sex will increase police violence against people who sell it and stop protitutes reporting violence

Sounds bizzaree bordering creepy to me

So many people becoming politically homeless across all the home nations.

Who do we all vote for now?

What comes after losing the plot? Cause they seem to have done that.

The Scotsman also reported that the focus on trans issues does not reflect the priorities of the membership, which were all around economy and green issues

Evidence Nonny?

Not in any UK government databases.

@PurpleHoodie

Evidence Nonny?

Not in any UK government databases.

I agree PurpleHoodie. It's a curiously persistent theme.

Curiously persistent. Yes.

This just makes me wonder why members of the Green Party want to make it easier for people to buy access to the bodies of transgender people.

It's sinister.

Pop really will eat itself.

If the Greens don't form a coalition with the SNP then the SNP won't have a majority, but more importantly (to the Greens) the Greens won't have any seat at the table and will go back to being a wee fringe party. Patrick Harvie will love that...

This is absolutely bonkers and must be led by the SNP defectors - they are literally the last 150 people in Scotland who think that Nicola Sturgeon's SNP is transphobic.

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Pop really will eat itself.

If the Greens don't form a coalition with the SNP then the SNP won't have a majority, but more importantly (to the Greens) the Greens won't have any seat at the table and will go back to being a wee fringe party. Patrick Harvie will love that...

This is absolutely bonkers and must be led by the SNP defectors - they are literally the last 150 people in Scotland who think that Nicola Sturgeon's SNP is transphobic.

Sounds like a fantastic hill to die on

The Green Party should get back to caring about the shit piling up in our streets, shores, canals, brown and green spaces.

A bit more "Natural power sources" and less Women accept males on your bodies for sex.

Are these ideas being imported wholesale from Antifa USA because of a lack of issues for the Greens to get their teeth into here? Any evidence? Where are they getting this stuff from? Twitter perhaps?

Housing, jobs, social discrimination. Yes, and women prostitutes also suffer and there are lots more of them. Why wasn't it just about prostitution why the add on?

From the article - right wing bigots 🤷‍♀️

I live in Scotland and don’t see a fire of trans panic

I do see worry about women’s rights though

“The letter accuses those who have raised concerns about reform of the Gender Recognition Act of being “right-wing bigots” funded by the “American religious far right” and says SNP representatives “at every level” have “stoked the fire of trans panic in Scotland”, demanding the SNP takes “formal action” against its own members.”

I'd love to go for a pint with Andy Wightman this weekend. Bet he'd be interesting company.

“right-wing bigots” funded by the “American religious far right”

It's such easily disproven bollocks, this.

It's not right wingers. It's not bigots. It's not funded by the US religious far right.

It's just ordinary people, your every day women (and men) who don't agree with gender ideology when it's explained to them. That's all.

I'm still waiting for my right-wing bigotry cheque...