Why allies are becoming terfs

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https://www.womenarehuman.com/the-trans-ego-why-allies-are-becoming-terfs/?fbclid=IwAR3pwLrQsK6vG547DNzLYXKS3goDzZ835Xo08NxQ1bL2Et_AW41nedRfUS4

Very well written.

Yes, certain quarters pushed too far.

Very powerful indeed.

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Oooh that's good. Love the p.s at the end 💪

Excellent.

If you like funny, you'll love this:

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/4278174-Sometimes-Twitter-can-be-fun

That article sums it all up for me.
I was an ally, they made it impossible for me to remain one.

I was also very much an ally but the all the reasons listed in that article made it impossible for me to ignore this was a men's rights movement.

The comments section was interesting too. I'd never heard about Richard Masbruch and don't remember the case being reported but it provides a very powerful example of why standing up to gender ideology is so important.

Yes. That pretty much sums it up for me.

Amazing article, thank you for posting

I want you to stop using your words, I want you to stop talking about your body, I want to destroy you in your sports, take your places in public offices, schools, and organizations. I WANT YOUR WOMANHOOD. And you expected me to comply. To hand it over. And you’ve convinced many to do just that. But women talk in the shadows about the truth

A powerful piece and so much resonates.

I can relate to this I was an ally until I realised just how much women and girls were expected to lose in the name of inclusion

Yes me too. I would have considered myself to be an ally for trans people but not anymore. This article sums up so well how I currently feel about this whole issue. Thanks for posting the link to this.

A powerfully written piece and can relate to much of this. But the comments about disability are too much and cheapen the piece. Yes people with disabilities learn to cope with a world that isn't kitted out for them, but we should so everything in our power to accommodate them. She is basically saying you don't fit in our world, so you should just accept it.

Thank you for posting.

Yes people with disabilities learn to cope with a world that isn't kitted out for them, but we should so everything in our power to accommodate them. She is basically saying you don't fit in our world, so you should just accept it.

I had a different interpretation. I think the point the author was making is that different groups of people have different needs but it's been the individuals within those groups who have campaigned for services and facilities they need to meet those needs.

People who have disabilities are acutely aware that the world is geared for able bodied people, they acknowledge this reality and campaign for the services and facilities to make the reality of their lives a little bit easier. We still have a long way to go in providing for people who have disabilities so that they can fully participate in public life and access the support they need.

You did not say, I am trans and that’s ok, now let’s fight against male violence together.
Another poster (sorry I can't remember who or which thread) made a similar point yesterday - that we could have worked together on these issues and , who knows, actually achieved something if only there hadn't been this insistence on inclusion instead of alliance. It's quite depressing.

Sometimes when I'm feeling more optimistic I think that maybe when this has been won and the dust has settled we can pick up where we left off and continue as an alliance. But then I think about how it could take years for the mistrust to heal. Such a missed opportunity.

Good article. My personal and working life focussed supporting the rights of women. I was one of many active feminists in the 70’s and 80’s. Throughout my working personal life, the needs and rights of women and children have been central. I’ve worked in hostels, prisons and refuges. The last thing those spaces need is men dominating them.

@Floisme what a great point.

Sometimes when I'm feeling more optimistic I think that maybe when this has been won and the dust has settled we can pick up where we left off and continue as an alliance. But then I think about how it could take years for the mistrust to heal. Such a missed opportunity.

Maybe if the push had been for trans spaces & recognition of trans identities, instead of for appropriation of women’s spaces & identities (including lesbianism) things would have been different. But as it is, I think the trust is long gone.

Brilliant. Thanks for sharing.

women talk in the shadows about the truth

Oh, yes. And that can never be stopped, no matter how hard anyone tries.

I think some of the comments on this board that support erasing informed consent and boundaries help the gender critical cause more than anything I could write.