Come on over the feminist chat - there are no guidelines there

[stumbledin]

Did you know you are now on the naughty step with special rules for what you can and can not post?

Why would anyone start a thread in sex and gender and who are MNHQ to arbitrarilly move someone's thread.

As I am opposed to any form of segregation I suggest we just boycott this forum and stick with feminist chat which has the added bonus of no rules.

And as no one has bothered to explain what has happened how can they tell me or anyone else we are in the wrong.

On another thread (or was it this one?!) someone posted they had contacted MNHQ about paying for something that was now stopping her from posting honestly. And was told to bear with them as they waited for feed back.

So basically this is not a consultation but a put into practice and if nobody complains then that's alright.

@WarOnWoman

I can only see Sex and Gender section on my app.

I can see all the others; feminism chat is the only one with anything in it.

But when I go into to it, it's all sex and gender.

So I cant post in feminism chat but I can't see sex and gender!

@stumbledin

On another thread (or was it this one?!) someone posted they had contacted MNHQ about paying for something that was now stopping her from posting honestly. And was told to bear with them as they waited for feed back.

So basically this is not a consultation but a put into practice and if nobody complains then that's alright.

That’s me (this is closest to famous I’ll ever be). I can confirm that there was no detail about how /who can feedback.

@BernardBlackMissesLangCleg

actually if a bunch of liberal feminists are going to come out of the woodwork and get a sharp lesson in feminism over on the other board I'm kind of cool with that

But does that mean that if a thread around liberal feminism swung round to sex and gender it's an immediate ping over to sex and gender?

Not happy about any of it.

Whilst I know it is not the same has what has potentially been lost here a reminder that the women run Ovarit ovarit.com/ is a good space to make sure you can keep up to speed on events and issues in women's rights. You can read even if not a member. To join you'll need a code from the admins (or someone you know who has an established account) whom you can DM on twitter twitter.com/WomenAreOvarit

What parts of feminism don’t relate to Sex and gender? Surely everything should be posted here?

@merrymouse

What parts of feminism don’t relate to Sex and gender? Surely everything should be posted here?

Maybe this one is for "debating" and the other for "chatting" ?

Goodness knows.

When is feminism not about sex and gender. Utterly ridiculous.

Good question. That's why the gender critical label leaves me scratching my head. Feminism, including and especially the 20-21st-century waves, is gender critical by its most basic definition. Whatever the contested ground and fierce debate between opposing schools this is the one thing all feminisms have in common. It's the basis from which they start.

As is the point that feminism's central concern is women.

What parts of feminism don’t relate to Sex and gender?

The "sugar and spice and all things nice" parts, maybe? For giggly chats about accessorising and choosing what to wear?

It's funny you lot keep calling it "the naughty step" since you're all reacting like upset children

Original.

I'm so confused by what goes where that I think just starting every thread on both boards is the best plan. Let MNHQ sort it out.

@BernardBlackMissesLangCleg

or is it disdain?

Feels disdainful to me.

Well over a decade here, I think my original account was created around 2008 possibly earlier.

I'm very disappointed by the way MNHQ has handled this. in all these years as a member here I've never seen a change handled so badly.
Not least the lack of announcement today that the board split had actually happened. To not communicate it beforehand to users, many of whom pay for their membership here, is IMO undoubtedly treating them with disdain.

I think it is that failure to communicate that in fact has created a lot of the suspicion and distrust of the motives.

Its not only unprofessional but its rude. I know not everyone pays but quite a few signed up to do that MN asked for financial support and this is their reward. Who treats their customers like that?

But there is no getting away from the fact that it also looks like they dont understand what is discussed or have gone out of their way to create discontent.

First of all there is no debate. The majority of posts are about how to save women's sex based rights.

If they had something along the lines of we can see that it a top issue for the majority, but it is swamping out the occassional posters on (insert here whatever feminist issue isn't about sex based rights).

So we are suggesting as it is such an active and ongoing campaign that posts on fighting for women's sex based rights are in the campaign section. On one level I can even see merit in that as it would mean with so many attacks on so many fronts on women's sex based rights having them grouped together could be beneficial.

So the heading doesn't even make sense. It is just insulting. They have been happy enough to take the compliments for hosting discussion and campaigning on women's sex based rights and then they charge in like a bull in a china shop saying why are taking up so much space with this debate.

Its in underhand, unprofessional and certainly not sisterly.

It can only be interpretated as divide and rule. And for whose benefit is that?