Is this the beginning of males being able to carry a foetus?

[DragonLegs]

www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9696597/Chinese-scientists-force-male-rats-BIRTH.html

I’m just wondering why this experiment took place? Is it’s goal to enable the male pregnancy?

It's like they watched the human centipede and thought it was an instruction manual.

Rats are highly intelligent sentient beings. Those 'scientists' are evil shits.

Waiting to see which TRA cheerleader volunteers to get grafted onto Aimee Challenor. You just know there'll be someone.

Poor rats. They're cute and intelligent.

Utterly disgusting and beyond cruel. Those poor rats, intelligent creatures, to be treated to such a senseless experiment. The images of the foetuses was awful.

Sewing animals together. Why?

Frankly it's reminiscent of nazi experiments and I honestly cannot believe this has been allowed. It's abhorrent

@Imnobody4

At this point I'm more concerned about the rats. What a cruel, pointless sadistic use of science. Goes hand in hand with the treatment of Uyghur muslims. Sometimes the future really scares me.

Me too. I feel sick reading that. One of the reasons I oppose all assisted conception is because of the pain, terror and pointless suffering inflicted on animals.

@DragonLegs

www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-9696597/Chinese-scientists-force-male-rats-BIRTH.html

I’m just wondering why this experiment took place? Is it’s goal to enable the male pregnancy?

Your post should have come with a trigger warning and an accurate title.

I’m not sure if the purpose of this. It’s not as if we are short of women in this planet. It just seems pointless and cruel.

@Borka

Fucking hell, what a horrible and pointless experiment.

Agreed 😔

This is one of the sickest things I have ever seen published.

People who torture animals generally don't end well.

This is awful. I don't even know how to express how I feel about this.

@KimikosNightmare how do you do your family planning then?
Just curious.

Why are experiements to try and grow babies without women an ongoing focus in science?

Because the fact we are needed to make babies is very inconvenient for men. It makes them need us. They can't do it. The obsession with paternity that leads to s lot of the desire to control us.

Women can do something they can't do, s really important powerful thing and they really don't like it.

Animals in labs are treated abhorently the world over, it's not an exclusively Chinese thing.

I don't know what the wider aim of the experiment was. If it's used as evidence that nope you can't transplant a uterus into a man and expect a healthy pregnancy to result then great. It's interesting that it's clearly not just the uterus and hormones, there must be something else about the female body that allows gestation. It would be interesting to learn more, especially if it is looked at in the context of understanding female fertility with the view to improving fertility treatments. There's still loads we don't know about the female reproductive system.

Of course the ethics of using animals like this are dubious but, as I said, experimentation on animals happens everywhere, not just China. Maybe they treat the animals better in the UK...but whether they do or not there's no getting away from it that UK lab rats live short and unpleasant lives. When I was at university one of my peers final year dissertations involved grafting tumours onto rats..

Thinking about it I'd be inclined to think that this must be about fertility treatments (for women). Implanting uteruses in human males must be so ultra niche that there won't be money to be made from it. Producing drugs and treatments for female fertility though? There's a huge market for that. I hope that's what they're looking into anyway.

Doubt it.

There's stacks of fertile women around to have babies.

And the current fertility treatments are lucrative.

Wankers. Animal being used in any way by humans should be banned.

@NiceGerbil

Doubt it.

There's stacks of fertile women around to have babies.

And the current fertility treatments are lucrative.

Not sure if this is directed at me? Sure there's plenty of fertile women but plenty of infertile ones too. Current fertility treatments are lucrative for those who provide them but that doesn't mean people won't be trying to come up with the next breakthrough. Especially as the global fertility market is expected to grow.

Creating effective treatments for loads of medical issues women experience would be lucrative but never seems to be a priority

Poor rats why would u do this

Animal experimentation for the sake of it, without any forseeable benefits to anybody. This is truly sick.

As a minor aside, I wish the newspapers didn’t go to extremist groups like PETA for quotations. Giving them legitimacy as a group to be consulted on animal rights is a bad idea.

Cruel and pointless

Poor rats

They would have hated being attached to each other and would likely attack each too

Awful business of scientists doing something that they really shouldn’t be doing just to see if they can

@NiceGerbil

Doubt it.

There's stacks of fertile women around to have babies.

And the current fertility treatments are lucrative.

There's plenty of fertile women. 1000s of animals were tortured, terrified and slaughtered to come up with equally unnecessary procedures like IVF, egg implantation and surrogacy.

@KimikosNightmare hope you don't take any meds, never need any treatment like chemo and in general never require any medical treatment at all. or is it only people that require fertility treatment that you judge for it?