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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Who’s raking it in?

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AnnaPa · 04/06/2021 10:48

About 15 years ago, I bought some shares in a major pharmaceutical company. It coincided with the growth and then explosion of the cross sex hormone and puberty blocker market, which was helped massively by some very aggressive social media marketing, powerful political support in the USA and the reality show about the most famous trans woman in the western world. The company I invested in also has a huge share of the breast and testicular implant market. Thanks, in part, to the amazing work by British feminists regarding body acceptance and the awareness of the dangers of breast implants, the market for female breast implants was tanking. It didn’t affect my investment as the growth of the trans gender market for both hormones and implants grew dramatically just as the demand for female breast implants was falling. My initial investment continued to grow and to date has made me very wealthy. I didn’t intentionally jump on the trans train and feel horrified at the wealth created by so many who did, knowing exactly what they were and are doing. At some point the wheels will come off and history will judge this, from a pharmacological point of view, as yet another scandal similar to the thalidomide, OxyContin and Valium scandals with another trail of horrifically damaged victims. The TRA movement is an investor’s dream, a misogynists’ dream and a women’s nightmare. The unpaid SJW foot soldiers working so hard in the field and on social media (yes Brunel University, I’m looking at your Marxist Society who, the more they campaign for trans rights at the expense of women’s rights) are helping make the capitalist society they so despise even richer than they could imagine, yet so wrapped up are they in their warped world, they are incapable of seeing the bigger picture and the horrific damage being done to women, the LGB community and people, especially children, with body dysmorphia and other comorbidities. It’s no coincidence that Pfizer made a huge contribution to Pride as, unlike the LGB market, the trans market is where their $$$ come from. Stonewall, Mermaids Gender and many others (Educate and Celebrate deserve a special mention as they’re celebrating all the way to the bank) have absolutely raked in the money from the trans market, hence their hatred for and attempted destruction of the newly formed LGB Alliance.

TRA has infiltrated, at least in the UK, the police, the education system, politics, the medical system, the media and the judiciary. I’m actually out of the UK and that same infiltration has not yet happened but is slowly taking off. There have been some vocal critics who themselves are victims of the trans movement such as the amazing and courageous Kiera Bell and also rational debate from Debbie Hayton, herself a trans woman amongst others. Showing any concern for the medicalization of gender non conforming children and adults or questioning the gender agenda has resulted in careers being lost, reputations being trashed and arrests being made. It’s scary as hell and horrific to watch from afar but my investment continues to grow, just like every other single person who has invested $$ in the most unethical social and medical experiment of our lifetime all helped along by the very willing, paid and unpaid brigade of woke.

I’m a very longtime reader of the FWR pages here and you all deserve acknowledgment, gratitude and respect for being the first group to have had the courage to speak out, starting many years ago, as to what is happening right in front of us. Much love to you all.

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alexyyy · 04/06/2021 11:07

'Who's raking it in?' You are. When are you going to stop profiting from others misery? I hope you are going to sell your shares and donate the profits to some worthy causes.

AnnaPa · 04/06/2021 11:18

That’s a very simplistic way of looking at it. We all unwittingly contribute to human suffering and abuse through consumerism although I do donate to various women’s charities both in the country where I live and internationally. The company in which I hold shares also produced a covid vaccine and pharmaceuticals for treatment of malignancies. The cross sex hormone market is very profitable but the profits contribute to research into future cures for various illnesses.

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alexyyy · 04/06/2021 11:56

@AnnaPa

That’s a very simplistic way of looking at it. We all unwittingly contribute to human suffering and abuse through consumerism although I do donate to various women’s charities both in the country where I live and internationally. The company in which I hold shares also produced a covid vaccine and pharmaceuticals for treatment of malignancies. The cross sex hormone market is very profitable but the profits contribute to research into future cures for various illnesses.
It's not simplistic. Pharmaceutical companies are organised criminal rackets. Peter Gotzsche has written extensively about that. But that wasn't the main point of my post. I found it astonishing that you seemed to be complaining about people profiting from cross sex hormones and puberty blockers when you yourself are one of those people!
thinkingaboutLangCleg · 04/06/2021 12:11

The TRA movement is an investor’s dream, a misogynists’ dream and a women’s nightmare. .... It’s no coincidence that Pfizer made a huge contribution to Pride as, unlike the LGB market, the trans market is where their $$$ come from. Stonewall, Mermaids [and others] have absolutely raked in the money from the trans market, hence their hatred for and attempted destruction of the newly formed LGB Alliance.

Thanks for posting this, AnnaPi. It's good to have it spelt out by someone who has seen the growth of this industry. It also underlines the trans lobby's financial incentive in trying to have the LGBA's charitable status revoked.

thinkingaboutLangCleg · 04/06/2021 12:12

Ooops - AnnaPa.

AnnaPa · 04/06/2021 12:20

Hi thinking, thanks for the reply. it’s a huge racket and a marginalized group of vulnerable people has been very effectively monetized. They are pharmaceutical consumers for life.

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MaudTheInvincible · 04/06/2021 12:35

Reminds me of the quote, attibuted to Aldous Huxley, that goes:

"There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it.”

AnnaPa · 04/06/2021 12:35

@alexyyy Thanks to the work of pharmaceutical companies and their researchers, we have a vaccine for covid. Immunization of once fatal childhood illnesses is all down to the work of pharmaceutical companies. Any medication you’ve ever taken in your life is a financial contribution to the pharmaceutical industry. Obviously, the more medicated we are, the more the pharmaceutical companies earn. I personally don’t believe that medication and surgery should be the first steps towards resolving gender dysphoria and neither do you but you seem rather angry with me that my investment 15 years ago has proven lucrative for me. Are you as angry with people who invest in say breweries for example? After all, death through cirrhosis of the liver is often attributed to alcohol abuse. My original post was an attempt to show how lucrative the medical treatment of gender dysphoria has proven to be for all involved with horrific consequences for so many vulnerable people. I certainly didn’t invest knowing that a gender dysphoria explosion was about to happen.

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AnnaPa · 04/06/2021 13:46

@MaudTheInvincible - from his correspondence with George Orwell. I wonder if he was speaking about narcotics although it certainly seems very apt today. He definitely predicted the pharmaceutical control and influence on the mind.

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AnnaPa · 04/06/2021 13:55

@alexyyy I think I’ve been pretty clear about the dangers of creating life long pharmaceutical users for something that may not need medicating but you’re choosing not to see that. Incidentally, breweries are multinationals with enormous profits. Their biggest nightmare would be a tea total society. They profit massively from heavy drinking. That’s another issue though.

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dyslek · 04/06/2021 14:09

Great post Anna. Spells it all out really.

dyslek · 04/06/2021 14:10

[quote AnnaPa]@alexyyy I think I’ve been pretty clear about the dangers of creating life long pharmaceutical users for something that may not need medicating but you’re choosing not to see that. Incidentally, breweries are multinationals with enormous profits. Their biggest nightmare would be a tea total society. They profit massively from heavy drinking. That’s another issue though.[/quote]
They are key lobbyists for the continued criminilisation of marajuana.

AnnaPa · 04/06/2021 14:15

@dyslek Thank you! It’s a murky old world, isn’t it.

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JoodyBlue · 04/06/2021 14:28

Illuminating, interesting and unsurprising albeit pretty soul destroying. Thanks for the post OP.

alexyyy · 04/06/2021 15:13

[quote AnnaPa]@alexyyy I think I’ve been pretty clear about the dangers of creating life long pharmaceutical users for something that may not need medicating but you’re choosing not to see that. Incidentally, breweries are multinationals with enormous profits. Their biggest nightmare would be a tea total society. They profit massively from heavy drinking. That’s another issue though.[/quote]
I am not choosing not to see that. On the contrary, that's exactly what I see. You see the dangers and choose to fund it nevertheless. Yes, some breweries are multi nationals and no doubt profitable and with dubious business practices. But many breweries are small local businesses and very much part of the community. Pubs and alcohol are an essential part of working class life and communities. There is no comparison with big pharma.

WarOnWomen · 04/06/2021 15:43

"I didn’t intentionally jump on the trans train and feel horrified at the wealth created by so many who did, knowing exactly what they were and are doing."

We know that big pharma are making from trans medications (and they definitely are and we have discussed this in the past on FWR). It's despicable and I sincerely hope that they have their day of reckoning.

On a personal level, can you not see that you yourself have profited from trans medication? Can you reconcile that with your wider views around the whole topic? Even if it was unintentionally done at the beginning?

AnnaPa · 04/06/2021 16:11

@alexyyy
“Pubs and alcohol are an essential part of working class life and communities. There is no comparison with big pharma.”

Except pubs and alcohol sometimes do untold damage and big pharma comes to the rescue, especially on Friday and Saturday nights in the ER when alcohol induced trauma puts an enormous burden of pressure on the NHS. Where do you think the drugs used to anaethetise emergency surgical intervention after say a DUI or other trauma come from? Where do the drugs come from to treat liver disease secondary to alcohol abuse or to operate on someone needing a doner liver and the life saving drugs needed to prevent rejection?

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AnnaPa · 04/06/2021 16:20

@WarOnWomen - I chose to invest in the pharmaceutical industry as drugs will always be needed hence it was a safe investment. No, I don’t feel personally responsible for the explosion of medicating people with gender dysphoria. I’ve actually been pretty outspoken about it but my words carry no weight in the grand scheme of things, neither with the pharmaceutical industry nor in the medical/surgical field and certainly not with the TRA’s. Do you know how or where your bank or pension fund invests? You’d probably be surprised and shocked if you knew exactly where your money ends up and what it supports.

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WarOnWoman · 04/06/2021 17:40

Of course, you're not personally responsible. I never said that. Exaggerating much. Hmm I said can you see how you have profited as well? How does it sit with you

You’d probably be surprised and shocked if you knew exactly where your money ends up and what it supports.

Nope. I wouldn't. I know how banks and businesses are I am very cynical about how they operate. It's not about me, anyway.

It's not clear from your posts but it seems you continue to be invested in funds that don't seem to reconcile with your political beliefs.

It's not that important to me tbh. Just pointing it out. Smile

Delphinium20 · 04/06/2021 18:12

@AnnaPa

Thank you for sharing what appears to be informed inside information -

PP anyone who has shares in a health care/provider/services/pharmaceutical/insurance corporation, including mutual funds, has profited by the lack of government oversight in this area (even low-level employees at such companies have some stock, in small amounts). Also, anyone living in a democracy or republic who can vote also has responsibilities and or culpability if your government is lax in regulations, so I don't think other PP attacking the OP on this ground is helpful. I'd prefer this information be shared widely and in-depth-as many investors don't pay as close attention as OP has done and few journalists are willing to take it on. The last thing we need is fewer people sharing because they don't want a pile-on.

AnnaPa · 04/06/2021 18:21

@WarOnWoman

I’m so sorry if I wasn’t clear in my answer to you. Investing in a pharmaceutical company means that you profit from illness and it’s treatment/management/cure. Of course I’m aware that cross sex hormones are extremely profitable right now and I’d be more than happy if a more conservative approach were taken although some patients will need cross sex hormones for the remainder of their lives. These same hormones are also used to treat menopausal symptoms in women and men who’ve suffered from testicular cancer but the way they are prescribed and by whom is entirely out of my control so I don’t feel any personal guilt for the return on my investment.

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AnnaPa · 04/06/2021 18:26

@Delphinium20
Exactly and thank you! More oversight especially regarding prescribing uses is desperately needed. Evidence based trials too as the long term effects in using puberty blockers in children and cross sex hormones for gender dysphoria are unknown and potentially horrific.

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