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Bride dies during wedding - so groom marries bride's sister same ceremony

58 replies

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 02/06/2021 20:43

This makes me so angry. Women are indistinguishable pieces of property

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9644501/Bride-drops-dead-heart-attack-wedding-India.html

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Erikrie · 02/06/2021 20:50

What the actual fuck? 😲

Cancellingadvice · 02/06/2021 20:53

Were you not already aware that marriage is treated as a business transaction in India? Doesn’t surprise me in the least

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 02/06/2021 20:57

Of course I was aware FFS. Am I not allowed to be angry about a particularly shitty example of the genre, or must I handwave it on?

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chickenyhead · 02/06/2021 20:58

The value of women.

Just a piece of meat.

BonnyEm · 02/06/2021 21:08
Shock
NameyNameyNameChangey · 02/06/2021 21:16

Shocking- but not particularly surprising.
IF it was an arranged marriage, then it would all have been on the reputation of the family. So a sister is probably considered "just as good" for the purpose.
Disgusting, though.

happytoday73 · 02/06/2021 21:19

Wasn't the best man historically there as a substitute for the groom in British weddings should something go wrong...

WhatWudYouDo · 02/06/2021 21:45

The bride's family would likely have been expecting a dowry,
Wtf! Poor reporting! It's the poor bride's family that pays eyewatering amounts in dowry.

Totaldick · 02/06/2021 21:48

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DeathByWalkies · 02/06/2021 21:49

This is the Daily Mail, not exactly renowned for its accurate reporting or its contribution to race relations, with a story where they can try and pass off brown people as savages.

Take it with a tablespoon of salt.

Smokeymirror · 02/06/2021 21:49

Terrible culture to act like that.

Totaldick · 02/06/2021 21:53

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Totaldick · 02/06/2021 21:55

@mnhq don't have a board where we can not speak the truth. Its a fudging wind up!

Binglebong · 02/06/2021 22:20

@happytoday73

Wasn't the best man historically there as a substitute for the groom in British weddings should something go wrong...
I believe he was there to fight off the girl's family when they were upset at her being kidnapped.
Binglebong · 02/06/2021 22:22

@Totaldick

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I'm sorry yo hear that. Did she manage to break the cycle with your parent?
Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 02/06/2021 22:33

@DeathByWalkies

This is the Daily Mail, not exactly renowned for its accurate reporting or its contribution to race relations, with a story where they can try and pass off brown people as savages.

Take it with a tablespoon of salt.

What is your alternate reading of the second bride being readurd to marry while her sister lies dead?

This article just brought home to me how women are seen everywhere. Disposable, utterly replaceable commodities.

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Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 02/06/2021 22:33

*readied

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NotTerfNorCis · 02/06/2021 22:35

I felt the language of the article was callous. 'Dropped dead.'

BreakingtheIce · 02/06/2021 22:40

I couldn’t help wondering if the bride had had a heart attack because she was so stressed at being forced into a marriage . All suooosition of course, but who knows. That article really made me angry too. So long as the precious son gets his baby machine, the particular machine doesn’t matter. It’s disgusting.

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DeathByWalkies · 02/06/2021 23:32

What is your alternate reading of the second bride being readurd to marry while her sister lies dead?

This article just brought home to me how women are seen everywhere. Disposable, utterly replaceable commodities.

Given that
a) it's the DM
b) they make major inaccuracies such as saying the bride's family would be receiving and not giving a dowry, which points to the reporter having not even a basic grasp of the facts
c) every time I have had some personal knowledge of a story reported in the press (e.g. when a friend died in an accident) there have been significant errors in the reporting, even when it's the local paper reporting on a local story
d) it's rural India, and no doubt the story will have been received fifth hand (at best) by the DM

... my interpretation is that there's very large parts of the story missing, or the whole story is a complete fabrication.

SmokedDuck · 02/06/2021 23:40

You know, I don't know what these people were like in terms of their attitudes, and I tend to think that having just had your sister die might not be the best time to get married.

But I also think that western culture has a particular and in some ways ver romanticised view of marriage, where many others are much more pragmatic about it. Is this a good person, do we have similar values, can we get along living as a couple, will we be financially stable, etc.

This kind of situation seems a little different when instead of seeing marriage as what you do when you're in love, loving someone is what you do when you're married.

Wrongsideofhistorymyarse · 03/06/2021 08:16

This kind of situation seems a little different when instead of seeing marriage as what you do when you're in love, loving someone is what you do when you're married.

I see this situation as being a contract between two families who weren't over bothered about which sister their son married, as long as they got the dowry. Absolutely despicable.

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justawoman · 03/06/2021 08:27

As others have said, the bride’s family would be paying the dowry, no receiving it.

I can see the issue with the apparent interchangeability of women and how awful that is. But I can also see that if you’re in a culture of arranged marriages (which is NOT the same as forced marriages) the whole set up looks different. I think there’s been research which shows that arranged marriages are no less likely to be happy than the sort of ‘love matches’ we now expect in Western society. And the idea of a love match is very recent. In places where life is hand to mouth and choices few, marrying to shore up a dynasty/ for business reasons seems a lot more understandable.

I’ve personally been the subject of a DM article which scurrilously misrepresented the facts to the point of falsification and have also seen other stories in other papers get things horribly wrong when I know what really happened, so as others have said, I really don’t trust the DM to get a story about an event in rural India right.

Basecamporbust · 03/06/2021 08:35

In Jewish law there is Levirate marriage which is called Yibbum where the brother of a man who dies is allowed to marry his widow. It's largely prohibited now but in some cultures marriage is more contractual and a way to keep the clan together both hereditarily and financially. Women are still often regarded as property and commodities. I was so aware of that throughout my marriage ceremony. Even had the rabbi lifted my veil beforehand to make sure I hadn't been swapped for someone else and my husband to be wasn't being duped. Absolutely vile. I had to go for sessions with the rabbi's wife to learn how to be a good wife and was subjected to a ritual bath before the marriage was allowed to go ahead to make sure I was totally 'clean' and pure. I am so angry even thinking about all this shit now and how I let myself be subjected to it and expected to feel special and part of a venerable tradition and culture by going through it. This crap is still going on and is very much alive and well .

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