For anyone who doesn't know The Rules!!!!

CuriousaboutSamphire · 15/05/2021 14:56

My how things have changed since then!

HunterHearstHelmsley · 15/05/2021 14:59

Wow.

As a cis woman, I'm hoping that people have to "drop something in my PayPal" if I have to discuss something "triggering" to me

AfternoonToffee · 15/05/2021 15:00

Oh I got bored, it could have just been. 1) We're Right. You're Wrong. 2) Worship the ground we walk on. We are the most important people in the world.

tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz · 15/05/2021 15:03

I remember this article from when it was first published and discussed here. It's still bollocks.

As a side OP your username is very familiar ... long time no sea if you're the poster I'm thinking of (or is it see? I may be having a Chetster Drawers moment ).

Lemmen · 15/05/2021 15:06

Oh I remember this one. It's still as funny as ever.

Hoppinggreen · 15/05/2021 15:08

Number 15 is perhaps something Trans people should focus on

Original poster

WhatyoutalkingaboutWillis · 15/05/2021 15:12

Perhaps we could have one for women!

Who wants to start?

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Thatswatshesaid · 15/05/2021 15:13

14 and 15 are interesting

PlanDeRaccordement · 15/05/2021 15:14

I’m not trans, but might implement this rule

“me and my partner call my menstrual cycle “Lucifer.” So if I text her to say “Lucifer is here,” she knows to bring chocolate and pillows. You can also try covering tampon or pad boxes and wrapping with cute cartoons or their favourite colour.”

🤣

JellySlice · 15/05/2021 15:17

Let’s cut the shit – there’s no positive way a cis person can dictate or speak on a life that you do not live and a world you do not have to navigate as a trans person.

Let’s cut the shit – there’s no positive way a male person can dictate or speak on a life that you do not live and a world you do not have to navigate as a female person.
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Do not enter queer or trans safe spaces without a queer person asking you to be there or without making sure that allies are welcome.*

Do not, if you are make, enter female spaces without a female person asking you to be there or without making sure that males are welcome.

15. When you are in queer spaces, repeat: “This is not my space, I will not fill it” and actually do what you say.

When you, a male, are in female spaces, repeat: “This is not my space, I will not fill it” and actually do what you say.

16. Be aware of your hands. Do not touch people without consent in all spaces – and especially queer spaces – and especially avoid touching trans people who often are triggered by physical contact involving parts of their body.

Males, be aware of your hands. Do not touch male or female people without consent in all spaces – and especially female spaces – and especially avoid touching female people who often are triggered by physical contact involving parts of their body.

At which point I gave up on the blinkered navel-gazing idiocy.

ConfusedAdultFemale · 15/05/2021 15:17

@WhatyoutalkingaboutWillis only if you want to be deleted and banned! Any kind of list on how to be supportive of women - that is, biological females - is transphobic.

lifeturnsonadime · 15/05/2021 15:17

Mermaids broke rule number 1 this morning by misgendering a non binary Mayor!

If Mermaids can't get it right god help the rest of us!

PlanDeRaccordement · 15/05/2021 15:19

This rule is completely wrong....

“Decolonise the way you think of gender. Remind yourself that these social constructs are postcolonial issues that the western world have pushed onto people.”

We were never colonised in China which is definitely also not part of western world, and very clearly have almost identical gender “constructs”

RedDogsBeg · 15/05/2021 15:20

Whilst all the rules are just and I had to pick out these particular gems:

Do not enter queer or trans safe spaces without a queer person asking you to be there or without making sure that allies are welcome.

When you are in queer spaces, repeat: “This is not my space, I will not fill it” and actually do what you say.

If you are called out for being offensive, do not argue. This is not a debate. Apologise. Take a moment to reflect. If necessary, leave or give the space over to those you have offended or upset.

Do not tell us we “are playing the victim,” WE ARE THE FUCKING VICTIM.

If trans folk do have to explain something to you that may be uncomfortable, triggering, or upsetting for us, buy us a bunch of flowers, take us for dinner, drop something into our PayPal. No labor should be free.

Offer shelter, money, food etc. The basics of survival are hard for trans folk. If you have enough to spare, try to offer.

If your trans friend is leaving a social situation and feels uneasy about travel, offer to walk them to a train station and wait with them, drive them home, or get them a taxi. Travelling home alone by yourself can be a scary scenario.

Do anything you can to stop trans exclusionary radical feminists (TERFs) from leaving stickers, leaflets etc. Tear down everything you see associated with them.

Do not engage in question-based conversations with TERFs. You have nothing to learn from them.

Gender and sexuality are not the same thing. Remember that at all times.

Correct yourself if you accidentally misgender someone. It doesn’t matter if it was an accident – it still hurts.

Sex work is a service. Again, this is not up for debate. Do not try to stop trans folk from advocating for and implementing their own safety measures. Do not hide your prejudice against sex workers with fake worry.

Pride is not for you to get drunk and smear glitter on your face. Respect that this is not your space.

Trans-only groups are there for a reason. These are also not your spaces

I also am not playing Top Trumps with you. Don’t try to top my experience.

Narcissism on steroids - all about meee, mee, me.

The irony in some of those statements is off the charts.

Nice to have them confirm that Pride is for Trans only.

No debate, submit to us, prostrate yourselves at our feet and worship and fund us, nothing else is acceptable.

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 15/05/2021 15:21

@tellmewhentheLangshiplandscoz

I remember this article from when it was first published and discussed here. It's still bollocks.

As a side OP your username is very familiar ... long time no sea if you're the poster I'm thinking of (or is it see? I may be having a Chetster Drawers moment ).

There was a poster called something like WotchatalkingboutWillis who was on the opposite side of the debate, wasn’t there?

I call my period ‘cis privilege’ especially when it wakes me to change my sheets at 2am.

PlanDeRaccordement · 15/05/2021 15:23

Ok, I’m a bit miffed now
“Pride is not for you to get drunk and smear glitter on your face. Respect that this is not your space.”

WTAF? Yes it is MY space as I am bisexual. Pride isn’t a trans space! It’s a space for gay/lesbian/bisexuals.

lifeturnsonadime · 15/05/2021 15:24

Do not engage with TERFS, now why might that be?

I've never read such a load of self obsessed tripe in all my years.

Especially rule 40 - Do not tell us we “are playing the victim,” WE ARE THE FUCKING VICTIM.

ha ha ha ha ha !

EmpressWitchDoesntBurn · 15/05/2021 15:26

Correct yourself if you accidentally misgender someone. It doesn’t matter if it was an accident – it still hurts.

Correct yourself if you use ‘cis’ as a collective adjective for women who don’t identify as trans. It doesn’t matter if it was an accident - it’s still annoying.

Soubriquet · 15/05/2021 15:26

Making my way through it but this is ironic

14. Do not enter queer or trans safe spaces without a queer person asking you to be there or without making sure that allies are welcome.

Original poster

WhatyoutalkingaboutWillis · 15/05/2021 15:29

I've obviously got/had a doppelgänger!

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lifeturnsonadime · 15/05/2021 15:31

@Soubriquet

Making my way through it but this is ironic

14. Do not enter queer or trans safe spaces without a queer person asking you to be there or without making sure that allies are welcome.

Isn't it just.

Soubriquet · 15/05/2021 15:31

91. Pride is not for you to get drunk and smear glitter on your face. Respect that this is not your space.

No pride is not an exclusive trans space. Pride is about Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual AND Trans. As well as their allies.

Soubriquet · 15/05/2021 15:32

And another

92. Trans-only groups are there for a reason. These are also not your spaces.

So trans people are allowed their own exclusive space....but women aren’t?

Talk about double standards

partyatthepalace · 15/05/2021 15:32

It’s certainly a way to full time...

Unsuremover · 15/05/2021 15:53

How many different ways did they mention being paid ? To explain being trans, as an apology, hired because they are trans, promoted because they are trans, offered help because they are trans. I get it your skint! But money does solve social inequality (I mean it’s a hell of a problem obviously) but for example rich woman were still losing their children in divorce so it’s not just a money can solve it issue!

Also is gender a thing or not? Genuinely asking. Don’t buy stereotypical toys for kids. But don’t say you don’t see gender. How can I make sure my daughter is playing with trucks and acknowledge that she’s a girl??? Maybe there’s soemthing else that could use?

It all reads like club house rules.