Glad for this mumsnet feminism space - thank you all

[Iootraw1]

I literally happened upon this board on mumsnet after searching for information on trans matters and gay rights (son came out gay and family friend now trans) and to say my eyes were opened is an understatement.
I just never knew (being someone who avoids reading too much news and avoiding political discussions). A middle aged woman I am, who grew up in the 1980’s and thought she’d seen great progress for women over this period of time and that things were only going to get better what with the laws in place to protect us, and gradually changing attitudes in society.

But now have come to shocking realisation that all the good that feminists have worked for can just be eroded - and all within my lifetime!

I try talking to my family about these threats of trans trampling over women’s rights but find myself on the receiving end of scorn. My teenagers are obviously of a generation where they believe all is right in the world and anything I say comes from an old fashioned conservative viewpoint which is not acceptable in today’s society. Whose society - teenagers and young twenty somethings? Husband no better he just gets cross with me for raising these issues (which I believe are important to discuss) and annoyed that I frustrate our children (who are 18 and 14 btw). Doesn’t help that I am no good at debating these things and find myself sounding cross (can’t help it when I’m put down or shut down all the time and I’m not the brightest button with regard to verbal explanatory and persuasive speech).

I have no female close friends to discuss with either so I just want to say thank you to every single one of you on here who posts on women’s issues and rights. I don’t have to agree on everything but that’s okay because we all come from a place that truly cares about our own sex.

God knows we will all need each other.

Thank you for listening. 😊

You're welcome here OP, many of us disagree on any number of issues but it's useful, I find, to read why posters hold the views they have.

Stick around, read the Break It Down For Me thread and get comfy. Might as well, you're here now

💐Welcome aboard!

Welcome 😊👋

Be prepared for an education that will cause you sleepless nights until you get angry and activated.

@OhHolyJesus

Can you put in a link for this thread please?

I'm glad you've found yourself here. I think older women (I'm old!) have such a firm grip on the reality of biology that we're too grounded too gaslight with all the gender nonsense. There's nothing like pushing a couple of kids out of your nether regions to focus your attention on biological reality! Teenagers and men think they know it all, but they rarely know much, if anything, about what it is to be a woman. Don't argue with them if it upsets you, come here instead and soak up the sanity.

@IslandLulu

@OhHolyJesus

Can you put in a link for this thread please?

Hey presto! www.mumsnet.com/Talk/womens_rights/3145470-Break-it-down-for-me

Welcome op.

Thank you 🙏🏻
Feeling better already 💪🏻
and I will look for that thread ‘break it down for me’ OhHolyJesus.

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Once you piece it together, you can never unsee it. The cognitive dissonance is huge when you are being told what to think and the lies that it is all backed in science.

Err. No. It is based on unproven theories and ever moving goal posts.

Welcome @Iootraw1 You sound like me a year or so ago!

Welcome @lootraw1 I hope you stick around, so many wise women and men here, plus it is possible to see instances of how to debate calmly and articulate well (my brain often does a 'bunny caught in headlights' freeze when I am caught off guard in an argument (on any topic) ). Plus I go to Mumsnet classics for a laugh. Well worth being here, do stay!

Hi Lootraw, welcome to this little island of common sense. It’s a good place to take a breather and enjoy the camaraderie of like minds.

@lootraw1

I'm new here, too, OP.

Like you, I found myself here looking for information after hearing about so many women (and children and some men) being harmed by men bent on trampling over women's rights in so many areas of life from school to sports, toilets to healthcare and more.

I'm finding it a bit hard to keep up with some things but am doing my best. I'll also check the Break it down for me thread.

Thanks to everyone giving their support to this.

Good evening @Iootraw1. I stumbled into these FWR boards about eighteen months ago and have read and learned so much from so many of the regular women posters here . Their expertise and experience is clearly apparent in their articulate , logical posts .
The more I have read , the more I understand and the clearer becomes the concept of the trans issue and its implications for women and girls .
I too am horrified at what is happening to our children ... horrified , enlightened , angry , sad and determined to stand against it . My improved understanding and language skills have boosted my confidence to speak out .
I have also studied the posts from men , transwomen (and some women) who declare that biological sex is not the determinant of one's 'sex' - but that 'gender identity' is .
I'm a Late Onset Feminist . I am ashamed about the length of time it took me to get here -I was run ragged by life , my ex and my sons - but I'm here now and catching up .

Mumsnetters rock!

Chiming in to say thank you also. I mostly lurk and learn, but my God, have my eyes been opened since coming here. I’ve even slowly started to make my husband see the light too.

Hello, OP, welcome!

Hello OP, I'm more of a lurker on these boards. Sometimes I don't trust myself to post for fear of being banned for using the wrong language, i.e. that men are men whatever they tell us.

I've been aware of the attempts to erode women for a few years, have even had a long term friend (of around 20 years) cease all contact with me due to my rigid black and white thinking due to my firm belief in biological sex and that gender is just made up. I blamed myself for this, blamed the fact that I'm autistic. Then I started reading more and more on here and elsewhere and I realised, it's not me, my belief in sex not gender is right and what's more, I'm not alone.

Anyway, enough rambling.

Welcome

It's always lovely to read such posts from those who usually lurk. It does sometimes feel like we are screaming into the void, but I'm glad that the threads here and the women who take the time to contribute to them are having a positive effect.