School newsletter tells girls how to bind

[ErrolTheDragon]

There's a piece in the Times today ... parents not happy at the content of a newsletter produced by the 6th formers

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/nonsuch-high-school-sixth-formers-told-girls-11-how-to-bind-breasts-k7slvrbkr?shareToken=a84af706d3b638e2ea3d2d53ea04e29d

this newsletter seems to have been written by a 16 year old girl. I hope her parents and school teachers/governors etc are aware of the serious safeguarding issues she is implicated in and take immediate steps to protect her, as well as the other & younger children this may impact on

This. Very much this.

The below kept coming to mind in connection with this incident. Not that I am endorsing it as a response.

‘Then I say that if a young girl’s mind is such a sink of filth and impurity, I wish to God that I had never had a daughter.’

Bonus for all who recognise the quotation

God? Was it god who said that?

Fernanda Grey's father in 'Frost in May'!!

The first book published by Virago - highly recommend.

toffee, no. Not as such, but a fictional person who believed themself to be a good friend of His.

I had to google, but yes, I've read all four of those autobiographical Antonia White books - is that from Frost in May? Made a huge impression on me when I was in my 20s, and I'm not a Catholic nor have I ever been mentally ill.

Foxglovesandprimroses I couldn't agree more.
If you haven't read it, do! I doubt you'll regret it.

Interestingly, I remember young Clara in the second book I think - in common with many literary characters - talking about how she desperately wanted to be a boy as a v young child and insisted on wearing a hussar cap.

We have gone so far backwards as a society .

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

There were some obvious benefits for women from the huge change in social attitudes towards sex that came in in the 1960s and 70s, notably less stigma for women having sex before marriage or cohabiting and/or having a child outside marriage.

I can't help feeling though that it was out of the frying pan into the fire for many women.

Pressured into having sex or be labelled frigid.

Told marriage is just a piece of paper, so not insisting on having their financial position protected before sidelining their career after having children, while he forges ahead with his.

Pressured into accepting their male partners watching porn, even when it makes them uncomfortable.

Pressured into acquiescing to sex acts their partners learned about from porn, even when they're obviously humiliating or extremely risky and will hardly ever be enjoyable for a woman.

Women's Lib didn't go far enough.

I completely agree with this. I feel ragey that every little step forward women have made, has come with so many steps back.

BMJ on fisting and cheeses (warning - very graphic): sti.bmj.com/content/80/6/469

It must also be emphasised that these are sexual practices that are most prevalent among gay men. Which again makes me wonder about this in an all girls school.

Because the trend is pretty male based isn’t it? When was the last time you saw lesbians being held up as the cool and glam ones? It’s as if girls want to be 1980s gay disco boys...

I wonder whether it is an extension of teenage girls having crushes on pretty boy band members, now wanting to be just like them, like feminine boys.

My teenage dds do not need advice on damaging their bodies, or on fisting fgs .When on earth did fisting become normalised? Is this because anal sex has become normalised so there is a push for something even more extreme?
I am appalled, and worried for my lovely daughters, who have not yet dated anyone and imagine a future with kind and sweet natured boys

Perfectly said! Where is the language on the joy of mutually respectful, pleasurable lovemaking? No wonder they want to erase lesbians or contort any non PIV into "fisting."

It took me 36 hours for my cervix and then vagina to stretch to a place that accommodated a baby's head that was not much wider than a large man's fist...and I tore 2 inches. We need to speak loudly to our daughters that their vaginas are not meant for anyone's fists!!! I'm seething with anger that girls are hearing these dangerous messages.

www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/girl-16-forced-use-colostomy-13866091 Daily Mirror report, also quite graphic. 16yo Australian girl has to have colostomy after porn-inspired anal sex. Experts worried young women are finding it difficult to say no to harmful practices.

See also the rising number of cases of women dying after so called rough sex, which the male partner invariably claims was consensual. Odd that it's never a male partner dying and a female partner making the same claim.

Cheeses? Good grief. Chemsex 🙄

I did wonder! I'm not well up on the terminology, so for all I knew that was yet another weird practice.

Jesus Gaspode, that link

And yet did you notice how it’s phrased as “SHE severely injured her bowel during rough group sex... trying to copy things she’d seen online”?

Where is the reference to the other people who did it to her and their sex? It’s written as if she did it all on her own, as if that’s a normal thing for a teenage girl to do to herself. Even the f-ing phrasing of the article removes the MEN involved from the whole equation.

See also the rising number of cases of women dying after so called rough sex, which the male partner invariably claims was consensual. Odd that it's never a male partner dying and a female partner making the same claim.

Isn't it just. Almost like it's just a manipulative new way of covering up male pattern violence 🤔

“Clymene

BMJ on fisting and cheeses (warning - very graphic): sti.bmj.com/content/80/6/469

It must also be emphasised that these are sexual practices that are most prevalent among gay men. Which again makes me wonder about this in an all girls school.“

And anal sex too which had a section in the newsletter. Why is now what l girls are supposed to want? Is this what most men prefer.

I completely agree with GaspODeTheWOnderdog’s post too.

When I read Frost in May I was struck by so many similarities with my experiences at school in the 60s to the point of feeling physically sick.

Yes to the poster who suggested that girls who claim to be trans want to be “feminised” boys. Girls have no conception of what being a boy actually means, how boys think, the effects of puberty on boys’ bodies, their desires, their friendship bonds, their particular romantic natures (which girls often don’t understand) their insecurities. They don’t really want to be boys because they don’t know what that means, they just like the idea of themselves being male rather than female, without the pesky accoutrements of being female, forgetting that there are pesky accoutrements of being male as well.

It's just horrifying.

Gaspode - apologies for the confusion. I've never typed chemsex before and my iPad decided I must mean cheeses as that comes up quite frequently

Someone (Datun?) posted a link ages ago about a study on young women and anal sex and the damage it had done to their developing bodies

@Clymene

Cheeses? Good grief. Chemsex 🙄

I did wonder Clymene. Then I thought how could someone possible use cheese as a sex toy???

@Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g

I did wonder! I'm not well up on the terminology, so for all I knew that was yet another weird practice.

Me too, I was picturing something disturbing involving wheels of Stilton.

Article on this about Nonsuch from former teacher: www.spiked-online.com/2021/04/27/the-woke-cultural-revolution-in-our-schools/