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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Legal gender affirmation improves mental health for trans people

73 replies

Shizuku · 02/05/2021 10:35

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7229467/

"Findings: Legal gender affirmation was significantly associated with lower reports of depression, anxiety, somatization, global psychiatric distress, and upsetting responses to gender-based mistreatment."

OP posts:
Skyliner001 · 02/05/2021 17:01

@Barracker Love that you write like you are writing a children's book, and everyone here tells you how intelligent you are 😂😂

GreyhoundG1rl · 02/05/2021 17:03

[quote Skyliner001]@Barracker Love that you write like you are writing a children's book, and everyone here tells you how intelligent you are 😂😂[/quote]
Just why? Hmm

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 02/05/2021 17:06

[quote Skyliner001]@Barracker Love that you write like you are writing a children's book, and everyone here tells you how intelligent you are 😂😂[/quote]
One day you too will write something that makes everyone think you are intelligent skyliner

I have every confidence in you

HermioneWeasley · 02/05/2021 17:06

@Shizuku if this is true, then it’s the it wonderful that there is a way for that to happen which has appropriate legal and medical safeguards. What is your point?

lazylinguist · 02/05/2021 17:08

Are you one of those foolish people who mistakenly think that long words and over-complicated sentences, rather than logical thinking and clarity, are a sign of intelligence, Skyliner001? And are you perhaps also under the impression that writing books for children requires no intelligence? I'm afraid you're wrong on both counts.

allmywhat · 02/05/2021 17:10

Love that you write like you are writing a children's book,

You're a bit clueless about child development, aren't you?

CorvusPurpureus · 02/05/2021 17:13

Clarity in language is a good thing, skyliner, & especially the ability to trenchantly express one's opinion without obfuscation.

SunsetBeetch · 02/05/2021 17:16

[quote Skyliner001]@Barracker Love that you write like you are writing a children's book, and everyone here tells you how intelligent you are 😂😂[/quote]
Have you ever posted anything that isn't a maximum of two sentences of snark? 'Cause I don't think I've seen it if you have.

RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 02/05/2021 17:17

@CorvusPurpureus

Clarity in language is a good thing, skyliner, & especially the ability to trenchantly express one's opinion without obfuscation.
What was that thing a few years ago...the plain English campaign

When i was working in banks and insurance companies there was a huge push to make our communication clearer both verbally and in writing

If I couldn’t explain things to a customer so they understood, the fault was mine and not theirs

WhatWouldPhyllisCraneDo · 02/05/2021 17:19

JK Rowling wrote some books for children. Her use of language and the history and meaning of words is inspired.
Although I suspect certain people here have 'cancelled' her.

In the last 30 days have I been upset because of something to do with my gender? Dunno. As Im yet to see a definition of what 'woman' as a gender is I don't know if I am one. My sex? Yes definitely. Sadly my nieces are being given the same messages that have damaged me growing up.

Is it acceptable that we legally afirm trans gender people at the expense of other people's (mainly womens) mental health? Why is a trans person's mental health more important than mine?

Helleofabore · 02/05/2021 18:41

Wonderful post barraker.

And again, we see yet another USA study being suggested to be relevant to the UK.

Not only that, but the suggestion that to improve the mental health of a group of people means negatively impacting the rights of another group of people is appropriate and best practice shows a clearly biased agenda. And also show a significant lack of judgement by the person who suggests it.

Now, if you wish to start a conversation about how to best address the mental health issues faced by transpeople, (particularly transmen as they are female and many on this board centre females,) and how to do this without negatively impacting the rights of females, let’s do that. And by rights, I am talking about those needed to address the sexist discrimination experienced by females during to their sexed bodies.

And by female, I mean those with bodies formed around the production of large gametes, regardless of whether they produce those large gametes now, have done or will do in the future, or not. Females who experience discrimination because of their sexed bodies from even before birth in some instances, but usually from birth. Something that males seem to be less inclined to acknowledge.

Oh, and let’s also discuss the discrimination that those females (with bodies as described above) face by males in the trans community. This includes the lack of acknowledgement of the significantly high health risks faced by female transitioners compared to the still high by the way, but lower risk of male transition.

And more significantly the fact that in the UK, at the moment, the majority of young transitioners are female.

Was that your intention in posting this OP.

If so, then thank you for being open to those conversations. The readers always appreciate the extra information that gets posted by the time these threads finish.

Shall we start those conversations now?

R0wantrees · 02/05/2021 18:46

What was that thing a few years ago...the plain English campaign

Established in 1979, the Plain English Campaign is still operating.
"We campaign against gobbledygook, jargon and misleading public information. In this section of our site, you can read about our awards, see examples of communication at its worst, and read about some of our past campaigns."

www.plainenglish.co.uk/

NecessaryScene1 · 02/05/2021 18:48

Clarity of language reflects insight and intelligence.

Barracker is firmly at the Orwell end of the Orwell-Butler scale.

Skyliner001 · 02/05/2021 18:50

@SunsetBeetch Wow. Stalker much? 😬

Helleofabore · 02/05/2021 19:08

Not at all skyliner. Most people who read these threads will have picked up that trait from your posts. It is very obvious that you rarely post evidence to support the discussion at hand.

The fact you dismissed barrakers post was also immature and an ad hom attack. No thoughtful or insightful contribution at all. No clear argument to support your post seems to be a pattern.

Helleofabore · 02/05/2021 19:15

The ‘way’ you dismissed

Obviously.

Barracker · 02/05/2021 19:58

I'm delighted with the lovely compliments, especially yours Skyliner001. I do try to write in a way that a child would understand, it's absolutely true. If I nailed it successfully this time, I'm thrilled. Thanks!

Delphinium20 · 02/05/2021 20:32

You can adopt any belief, however unsubstantiated, but you cannot misappropriate a meaningful word that already has a material meaning which excludes you, by definition. You cannot take a word which already applies to other people, and not to you, and demand that this word's meaning be changed to mean the opposite, for your benefit. You cannot do that, and then actively prevent the group of people this word previously described from distinguishing themselves from you
@Barracker BRILLIANT!

The parallels of trans activism to religious belief are quite clear. As Shiz is American like I am, I recognize their evangelical belief messaging and argumentation. Cheerful repeating of mantras, refusal to answer difficult questions and relentless incursions where nobody invited them..."Let us all now pray together the prayer I insist you pray."

allmywhat · 02/05/2021 20:44

[quote Skyliner001]@SunsetBeetch Wow. Stalker much? 😬[/quote]
Wow. Stalker much?

This gave me a good chuckle - so gloriously self-defeating in context.

DerryWitch · 02/05/2021 20:48

@CorvusPurpureus

Looks like a funny thing happened on the way to the wrong forum?
Brava! Grin
SunsetBeetch · 02/05/2021 22:18

20:44allmywhat

Skyliner001

@SunsetBeetch Wow. Stalker much? 😬

Wow. Stalker much?

This gave me a good chuckle - so gloriously self-defeating in context.

Grin
RufustheBadgeringReindeer · 02/05/2021 22:19

[quote R0wantrees]What was that thing a few years ago...the plain English campaign

Established in 1979, the Plain English Campaign is still operating.
"We campaign against gobbledygook, jargon and misleading public information. In this section of our site, you can read about our awards, see examples of communication at its worst, and read about some of our past campaigns."

www.plainenglish.co.uk/[/quote]
Thanks r0wan

Ereshkigalangcleg · 03/05/2021 00:08

Brava Barracker, what a brilliant post Thanks

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