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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Can I ask a question about maya Forstater, please?

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rabbitwoman · 02/05/2021 00:12

I was chatting to a pal about this. She said she'd been reading up about the case, but thought the things maya had said on twitter were unhelpful and childish - calling a trans woman a bloke in a dress being one. She said her tweets were quoted in an article in the independent, or the guardian or something but I can't find it and I can't find any evidence of the tweets maya made that led up to her sacking having anything like this in them.

I did not really follow the case at the time but recently, I have listened to her interviews with Zuby and Benjamin Boyce and she sounds really professional, intelligent and she does not sound like she would throw about childish insults. But my friend is adament, and adament that her behaviour was foolish, not well thought out and that possibly her behaviour led to the judgement?

I am assuming that the stuff written about her for mass consumption was scewed somewhat to serve a certain agenda (much like jkr was misrepresented) ? Was she grossly misrepresented in the press (and was it deliberate) - or does my pal have a point?

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R0wantrees · 03/09/2021 14:57

RobinMoiraWhite wrote Sun 02-May-21
The fact that the majority gender-critical world wish to mis-read the Forstater case in one direction and many trans commentators mis-read it in the other is, professionally, hilarious.

But you could read what I think in my text on trans law, co-written with another member of my chambers, due out in just over a fortnight now.

Just google 'A practical guide to transgender law' from Law Brief Publishing. And it has a whole chapter on gender critical views. You might be surprised by what we have written.

(Yep - a shameless book plug.)

At the time I commented,
It's curious if not yet published that the bio at end of Independent opinion piece describes this as, "the leading text on transgender law"

archive.vn/mrYc0#selection-1187.130-1193.31

Leading as in question rather than importance perhaps? I look forward to the claims being reviewed once published.

I am very grateful to Naomi Cunningham QC for her professional assessment of the book

(extract)
Conclusion
"If the objective of the book was to increase understanding of the law in this area, it must be judged an abject failure. Even a reader with little prior knowledge will be struck by the regularity with which the authors simply give up on the task of analysis... If a pair of guides on a difficult mountain path were as consistently flummoxed as the authors of this book, their clients would be saying their prayers. In truth, there is little of either guidance or practical utility in White and Newbegin’s “practical guide”."

(I remain unsurprised)

R0wantrees · 03/09/2021 14:59

apologies
link to Naomi Cunningham's review of “A practical guide to Transgender Law” (Law Brief Publishing, 2021), Robin Moira White and Nicola Newbegin

legalfeminist.org.uk/2021/09/02/a-practical-guide/

EarthSight · 03/09/2021 15:06

@rabbitwoman

Thanks for this! In deed I have read it. I showed it to my pal. She said she still thought maya's attitude had not helped the situation and was rude.

She said she'd read about it in the independent, or guardian, and the tweets were quoted - but I can't find that article.

I know. I agree with your friend.....

.....bloody women being rude. Why they can't be polite all the time, including when their rights are being eroded?? It's just beyond me 🤷.

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