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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

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Dublincailin · 30/04/2021 18:00

I have been a lurker on mm for years first time to start a thread.

I just want to thank you all for these threads, you have encouraged me to look deeper find the hidden agendas ask hard questions.

In general giving me another side so I can think for myself instead of constant bias.

I'm in Ireland and this year I bought a women bag and next is the woman 👕

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NotTerfNorCis · 30/04/2021 18:04

Hi Dublincailin, great to meet you!

I'm so glad Mumsnet exists. It's pretty much the only place we can discuss certain issues now.

PrawnofthePatriarchy · 30/04/2021 18:06

Hello, Dublincailin. Lovely to meet you. There are some amazing women here.

StillFemale · 30/04/2021 18:07

@Dublincailin

I have been a lurker on mm for years first time to start a thread.

I just want to thank you all for these threads, you have encouraged me to look deeper find the hidden agendas ask hard questions.

In general giving me another side so I can think for myself instead of constant bias.

I'm in Ireland and this year I bought a women bag and next is the woman 👕

Glad to hear it, the message the woke lads in Ireland push is that we’re all nasty Brits on here Hmm
Leafstamp · 30/04/2021 18:13

Hi Dublin. It's really nice to see these type of threads. Tbh I'm a newcomer to it all too (last few months) and have recently been complemented on my knowledge of eg the Equality Act.

It's all thanks to MNetters. Smile

EmbarrassingAdmissions · 30/04/2021 18:17

we’re all nasty Brits on here

Nest of vipers, if you please. And, frankly, if that is what it takes during these times…

StillFemale · 30/04/2021 18:19

@EmbarrassingAdmissions

we’re all nasty Brits on here

Nest of vipers, if you please. And, frankly, if that is what it takes during these times…

Ah I know, it’s just another way they have found to dismiss women’s voices and pretend there’s no problem in Ireland
ArabellaScott · 30/04/2021 18:20

Hi, Dublin. Smile

Dublincailin · 30/04/2021 18:25

INE, the most intolerant people are the left.

I'm willing to listen, willing to take what they say on board be open to changing my mind.

But the left is completely closed. Their beliefs end of.

I was listening to a show during the week and a listener came on stating they wanted their children brought up in the school of their faith, entirely their choice. Not harming anyone.

They were attacked the only argument was it is 2021, not 1921. Get with the times etc.

It's frightening how indoctrinated they are and they cannot see it. It seems to me I am watching the next major scandal.

I say that as a mother & baby home survivor.

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Dublincailin · 30/04/2021 18:28

I pressed post too soon, I say that a survivor of the mother & baby homes I am a living part of the latest scandal.

And it will be a future scandal, pumping kids with all sorts and no idea of the effects years down the road.

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stumbledin · 30/04/2021 18:54

So nice to hear this. We all benefit from MNHQ letting us (most of the time!) share our opinions and ideas.

And it has allowed those of us not in Ireland to find out about the great work that Irish Women's Lobby is doing! irishwomenslobby.ie/

MNHQ FWR should do one of those google maps showing how far and wife the viper's nest is. Smile

Womansisterdaughtermother · 30/04/2021 18:56

Hi @Dublincailin.... Conas atá tú? Im a Dublin cailín too and I've started posting here too just since Easter X

Dublincailin · 30/04/2021 19:12

@Womansisterdaughtermother

Conas atá tú? It feels very lonely here in Ireland been on the other side.

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saltedcaramelchocolate · 30/04/2021 19:22

@Dublincailin
Welcome. I am an Irish poster too. I have learnt so much about Self ID here on MN. Despite living in Ireland I never knew Self ID was in Ireland until I read about it here!
It is simply never mentioned in the MSM in Ireland.
I am still staggered that not one single politician objected to completely redefining the meaning of the word Woman in 2015 when they voted for Self ID. It didn't seem to occur to them that this would have an impact on the rights of half the population.
I do feel politically homeless atm, but I think as people are becoming more aware of what is happening, more people are speaking up,. Eventually they will have to start listening.
I haven't met a single person who supports Self ID.

Erkrie · 30/04/2021 19:36

Welcome Dublin.

CorvusPurpureus · 30/04/2021 19:42

Hey Dublin Smile.

Womansisterdaughtermother · 30/04/2021 19:47

Yeah Dublin I have been feeling that way many times. Lately I have confided in a few of my longest standing friends and my sister... And they still love me and also now agree with me. Its so good here on mn isn't it... The sanity of it here X

Womansisterdaughtermother · 30/04/2021 19:54

@saltedcaramelchocolate yes we are utterly politically homeless! Terrible isn't it!!! I know our UK sisters here have similar feelings. I would vote Tory if I lived in UK just purely because of Baroness Nicholson. If we can't define woman, literally there is no point in any other fights.

RedLem0ns · 30/04/2021 19:59

Hi Dublin. Another Irish poster here- lovely to know there are like minded people on the island!

Womansisterdaughtermother · 30/04/2021 20:07

@Dublincailin you are so right.... What is unfolding.... Another scandal...just wanted to say ... well... for you as a survivor of Mother and Baby Homes, it must be beyond painful for you to watch another generation being abused, with so many state agencies captured now

Dublincailin · 30/04/2021 20:08

I haven't had a political home for a while.

I have not even found an Irish chatroom option to have an open discussion. It is always a pile on attack and I would expect to get banned for having my own opinion

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Dublincailin · 30/04/2021 20:17

@Womansisterdaughtermother

It is abuse after abuse of children in a country that is barely 100 years making its own rules and laws.

Yet again Irish people with power are abusing Irish children.

The last stats I saw (can't remember where) there was like a 400% increase in gender referrals in 10yrs. We went from single figures to treble in 10 years, how is that not setting off massive alarm bells?

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FeckTheMagicDragon · 30/04/2021 20:43

Welcome Dublincailin, Westmeath lass here. Going up to Dublin on my own was my first big adventure. I saved my bus money and hitch hiked!
I think growing up there in the 80s and being a single mum at 18 (did not end up with the nuns thankfully- although it was mentioned) opened my eyes to how people, who think they are ‘in the right’ are so unkind to women and girls. It’s as an if we’re disposable 2nd class citizens. I have to admit I left the country & I have no intention of ever moving back. Love coming to visit but I could not live there again. Lots of mixed feelings.

OhHolyJesus · 30/04/2021 21:46

Welcome Dublin, had my best holiday in Ireland.

I send love and solidarity to you from over the water. I'm so pleased to see groups like The Countess and LGB Alliance Ireland forming and of course so terribly sad to hear about what you have survived.

You are in good company here. Brew

Womansisterdaughtermother · 30/04/2021 22:16

@Dublincailin it is bizarre and really frightening that the Ombudsman for Children seems to have no concerns about this, in fact he seems 100% captured too by the ideology. Not being called out by any journalists at all either. All print journos too fearful to touch this... The pile ons you describe...... I am going to have to try to get in touch with the groups @OhHolyJesus linked just there... Before I spontaneously combust Angry

Dublincailin · 01/05/2021 07:36

Thank you all especially my Irish mban.

It is refreshing to know there are pockets of sanity still here.

From a few people I spoken with, the school gender-neutral toilets especially for teen girls could prove to be the push back issue.

@FeckTheMagicDragon
I was sent to the nuns by my parents in the ’90s, same as you I fell pregnant @18.

Although I kept him, I ran just after my last hospital apt to a friend who hid me from my parents until I went into labour and got him registered and all sw forms filled in. Job done, they couldn't do anything.

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