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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

NSPCC and SSAUK

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2fallsagain · 19/04/2021 22:18

SSAUK continues to call out safeguarding failures at NSPCC. This is a shocking thread, look at some of these so called teaching resources.

The senior management team of NSPCC clock up a wage bill of at lease £1million per year and they are failing to safeguard children.

twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1384234109019463690?s=20

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Leafstamp · 22/04/2021 13:56

@IloveJKRowling

Leaf thank you for doing this. That response is incredibly worrying as a parent.
I'm actually quite upset that this is the world our children are living in now - ie that because there is so much utterly inappropriate stuff accessible on the internet, the (supposedly) safe and decent children's charities feel they have to allow slightly less inappropriate stuff.

I think we'd be extremely shocked by what some children are exposed to and goes to show more campaigning is needed to keep adult material away from children.

ChickenonaMug · 22/04/2021 13:59

I am sure that Childline are moderating adequately to ensure that adults or other children are not able to contact the children outside of the forum. I am also sure that all content is moderated and that some is not permitted onto the forum.

However it is still a public forum where children are discussing sexual abuse, masturbation and their sexual feelings and experiences, which any adult can read and any adult can pretend to be a child, sign up and respond to as long as their message passes moderation. The NSPCC/Childline can not be so naive as to think that there will not be some predatory men who are doing just that and actually some of the messages read very much like they come from adults.

Some of the advice from children (or adults) to other children is wrong and/or unsafe and Childline do not appear to intervene to ensure that the correct advice is given. Some of the advice, or lack of proper advice, is potentially dangerous. Even if Childline were giving proper advice behind the scenes or advising the posters to make contact on the phone, other children who look at the boards would be misinformed about an issue that they may be concerned about.

Another issue is that, whilst there are lots of replies on some topics, on others there are often no replies at all. Some children describe a rape or sexually abusive situation that they have been subjected to and then noone replies. How on earth would that feel to that child to think that no one cares and again even if Childline contact the child via a message direct to their locker, what message does it send to any other child searching the board to find a situation similar to his or hers and then discovering one but without any replies or even an acknowledgement?

IloveJKRowling · 22/04/2021 14:01

Rabbit I didn't give them specifics, but they said the amount of moderation makes it very easy for staff to spot people who may not be who they say they are

Well since there are women from this site who've been able to sign up, that's clearly not true. And that doesn't change the fact that the message boards can be viewed by anyone at all, which in itself is wrong.

IloveJKRowling · 22/04/2021 14:04

All good points Chicken - if a rape / assault is reported do they refer to police? If not, why not?

Whatwouldscullydo · 22/04/2021 14:14

Oh gosh those boards Shock

I'm not gonna say they can't know because everyone's different but the way sone of those posts are written by kids soooo young, all In a way that gives the impression it's all just too all consuming, in a way that can't be healthy. How's there the time to he soon focused on all that between school and friends and I dunno, being outside playing.

persistentwoman · 22/04/2021 14:17

@ChickenonaMug

I am sure that Childline are moderating adequately to ensure that adults or other children are not able to contact the children outside of the forum. I am also sure that all content is moderated and that some is not permitted onto the forum.

However it is still a public forum where children are discussing sexual abuse, masturbation and their sexual feelings and experiences, which any adult can read and any adult can pretend to be a child, sign up and respond to as long as their message passes moderation. The NSPCC/Childline can not be so naive as to think that there will not be some predatory men who are doing just that and actually some of the messages read very much like they come from adults.

Some of the advice from children (or adults) to other children is wrong and/or unsafe and Childline do not appear to intervene to ensure that the correct advice is given. Some of the advice, or lack of proper advice, is potentially dangerous. Even if Childline were giving proper advice behind the scenes or advising the posters to make contact on the phone, other children who look at the boards would be misinformed about an issue that they may be concerned about.

Another issue is that, whilst there are lots of replies on some topics, on others there are often no replies at all. Some children describe a rape or sexually abusive situation that they have been subjected to and then noone replies. How on earth would that feel to that child to think that no one cares and again even if Childline contact the child via a message direct to their locker, what message does it send to any other child searching the board to find a situation similar to his or hers and then discovering one but without any replies or even an acknowledgement?

This. It's clearly evident to women on this board how inadequate the moderation is so why is it not to Childline? They're either untrained in safeguarding or don't give a damn. Enraging.
Leafstamp · 22/04/2021 14:21

I’ve gone back to the (Saferinternet) with food up concerns/questions - much taken from Chickens post - thank you. I will update.

Leafstamp · 22/04/2021 14:21

Sorry for typos. Follow up not food up.

RabbitOfCaerbannog · 22/04/2021 14:38

Excellent post Chicken

2fallsagain · 22/04/2021 14:46

@Leafstamp could you possibly send the correspondence to [email protected] ?

Thank you for taking action.

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RabbitOfCaerbannog · 22/04/2021 14:52

Here are some screenshots of a couple of posts I find a bit irregular. If this were an opportunity for young people to share these sort of things why on earth would Childline allow it all to be public? Even anonymously they deserve some privacy and I agree with Chicken, if these sort of posts are legitimate, there's no way that there aren't dodgy individuals getting off on them...

www.childline.org.uk/get-support/message-boards/boards/threads/thread/?messageid=186158

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Leafstamp · 22/04/2021 15:22

[quote 2fallsagain]@Leafstamp could you possibly send the correspondence to [email protected] ?

Thank you for taking action. [/quote]
Of course, I’ll will do this in the next hour or so.

GNCQ · 27/06/2021 10:11

Has anyone posted about this in the main area of Mumsnet eg "Chat" or AIBU?
It needs more exposure

OhHolyJesus · 27/06/2021 10:13

I think it has been covered in AIBU but it bears repeating.

OhHolyJesus · 27/06/2021 10:34

From today

twitter.com/safeschools_uk/status/1409079084248977413?s=21

highame · 27/06/2021 11:58

Why the bloody hell aren't Ofsted doing something?

Thecatonthemat · 27/06/2021 11:59

Agree with Chicken of course there are ways to intervene as the safeguarders we expect organisations such as childline to be. The absence on any actual support or information from trained counsellors on these threads is extraordinary. Yes some may be advised to phone in but the lack of accurate and helpful information for confused children is extraordinary. And the open access is of course a nightmare. I hope that the organisation looks again at their processes in relation to these message boards.

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