NSPCC and SSAUK

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SSAUK continues to call out safeguarding failures at NSPCC. This is a shocking thread, look at some of these so called teaching resources.

The senior management team of NSPCC clock up a wage bill of at lease £1million per year and they are failing to safeguard children.

twitter.com/SafeSchools_UK/status/1384234109019463690?s=20

@MoltenLasagne

I've just signed up as an 11 year old and have posted on the message board. They do moderate before your post goes live but no vetting.

That is so incredibly concerning that there are no restrictions but also the complete lack of awareness of it not being appropriate for 11 year olds to chat with strangers online. It is similar to how certain activists were encouraging children to DM them on Twitter and couldn't see what was wrong with it.

A cursory glance suggests that some of these children are talking about their bodies, wanting to change sex and their sexuality. They seem to be very young looking at the language used and yet there's an absence of appropriate adult responses. It is important that children in abusive situations can access organisations like Childline for support in confidence but the lack of oversight and due diligence suggests that this is not a safe place for young confused children.

Btw, I wouldn't have much hope for Esther even if she was involved. She used to be pals with Jimmy Saville.

Fucking hell! I hadn't seen the message boards before.

The first message I looked at on one of the boards linked above:

HI, my name is Lily, and I use the pronouns she/her. I was wondering how I would go about consulting my GP (I live in England)? Who exactly are they and what do they do? I'd like to inform them I'm transgender and see if I can be referred to a GIC.

The reply

Hi Lily, if you want to go to a GP for hormone blockers than it would be best to bring along a parent who is okay with them. Expalin to the GP that you are trans,what your pronouns and name are and what you want to be reffered for. Then will probably ask you a few question and then probably refer you to GIC. Fair warning,the waiting list for this is very long but don’t be discouraged. Th NHS might have some more information on their website, I hope this helped :-)

Freddy (They/Them)

I am that the Childline mods thought it was appropriate to recommend puberty blockers to a child that hadn't even mentioned them.

That whole gender identity board is a shitshow of children affirming each other - where the fuck are the adults?

And yes, this needs to be on the main boards. Every parent needs to know about this.

Apologies, for shouting, I realise it is not the done thing but FUCKING HELL

www.childline.org.uk/get-support/message-boards/boards/threads/?boardid=77&roomid=272

Talk about a green light for paedophiles.

Why the fuck do Childline think this is appropriate

So, as some of you may know I don’t know who but some of you commented on my post about me licking my girlfriends breasts and touching her bottom half all within consent but then after we done that she went home a couple of times and sent me breast pictures

www.childline.org.uk/get-support/message-boards/boards/threads/thread/?messageid=186130

Fuck, fuck, FUCK. I can't look at any more after this, I am so angry.

So I am a 13 year old girl and I masturbate sometimes, I want to do it more but I have a problem and something else that is bothering me.

So the problem is that after almost every time I masturbate my v area becomes itchy or kind of hot. Is this normal or is there something wrong.

The second thing is that I have tried almost everything, other than porn because I am trying not to become addicted again, but I almost never have an orgasm or cum. How can I have an orgasm
www.childline.org.uk/get-support/message-boards/boards/threads/thread/?messageid=186158

It made me feel extremely uncomfortable having a quick read of that thread.
But it did make me think, how are teenagers able to ask questions about sex and relationships and talk to each other? What would the best way be? If they can’t talk to parents or teachers because it’s too embarrassing or personal?

I never thought I would see a time safeguarding wise where it was up to parents to safeguard their children from actions of the very organisations funded to protect them . The NSPCC's reactions to their employee in fetish gear wanking in the work toilets was a massive red flag.
FGS - how has it got to this? I've worked with the NSPCC in their statutory safeguarding role on numerous occasions and they used to be shit hot on assessing risk and supporting parents and schools in response to abuse. They know (as do we) that paedophiles seek out children via unmonitored routes - on and off line. Who on earth are they / Childline employing that they can allow message boards allegedly for children to be used in this way with no oversight or intervention? As has already been said, this is a predator's dream.

@Karwomannghia

It made me feel extremely uncomfortable having a quick read of that thread. But it did make me think, how are teenagers able to ask questions about sex and relationships and talk to each other? What would the best way be? If they can’t talk to parents or teachers because it’s too embarrassing or personal?

If it has to be done online by Childline the way to do it would to be have closed message boards that you need to sign up to see as well as post. Adults properly trained in sex education, child development and safeguarding would be present and posting answers within threads.

Or of course children and teenagers can talk to each other in real life where they know who they are talking to.

And not allow people to reply to a thread with "Google it" - like that's going to end well with the second thread I posted above

@Karwomannghia

It made me feel extremely uncomfortable having a quick read of that thread. But it did make me think, how are teenagers able to ask questions about sex and relationships and talk to each other? What would the best way be? If they can’t talk to parents or teachers because it’s too embarrassing or personal?

That's a really good question. Children must be able to access responsible adults for support and to get questions answered. These message boards appear to be adult free with no appropriate responses and an "anything goes" approach. Every teacher teaching sex ed to whole classes knows that you manage questions so that young children don't get exposed to age inappropriate information etc. Mumsnet monitors this site and inappropriate threads / comments are deleted. Why don't our children deserve the same level of care from well funded charities who's aim is to protect them?

whose aim.....

Just read those boards. Pretty shocked!
And I would bet my last dollar some of those posters are middle aged men. They do not ring true to me at all.
Even more shocked that no vetting takes place before joining
A safeguarding nightmare!

@ItsAllGoingToBeFine

Apologies, for shouting, I realise it is not the done thing but FUCKING HELL

www.childline.org.uk/get-support/message-boards/boards/threads/?boardid=77&roomid=272

Talk about a green light for paedophiles.

OMG, this is hideous. I'm not going to tag her, but I think even ASugarr would have something to say about how wrong this is.

posters giving children guidance about their trans identities and sexuality could be any old Tom, Dick or Harry?

I strongly suspect that the "children" on this site may very well be Tom, Dick, Harry or indeed Jimmy.

Maybe we need to sign up as middle aged women who actually give a fuck about safeguarding and point out that chatting to strangers online about sex is a really, really bad idea if you're a child and goes against all safeguarding principles.

We've had many discussions on FWR about the rolling back of safeguarding, but this is really quite something. This is Childline and anyone can sign up and talk to kids about sex, porn and puberty blockers ffs. It doesn't seem like a remotely safe environment in which to be doing that at all.

I mean even tiktok claims to be 13+ (I know it's not really, but at least you have to pretend to be 13+ to go on there)

I really think this needs to be looked into. If you can't trust NSPCC to keep children safe, who can we trust? Genuine question. Does anyone know who would be prepared to look into this? I may even contact my local Child Sexual and Criminal Exploitation contact within the police. Is that OTT?

Leafstamp
I'm inclined to think the press are a better bet as so many police forces are Stonewall champions these days so will no doubt follow their directions rather than the needs of children.

I may even contact my local Child Sexual and Criminal Exploitation contact within the police. Is that OTT?

I don't think it's OTT. It's the kind of thing people with agenda SAY is OTT for women to be concerned about, but it's really not. I hope the police are looking at this site to see who's on there and if there's any grooming going on. It's clear there's no attempt to ensure people are who they say they are.

@persistentwoman ok thanks. I only had a quick look because I felt uncomfortable so I hadn’t appreciated that it wasn’t moderated. Didn’t realise it was just a bit of a free for all!

[quote Karwomannghia]@persistentwoman ok thanks. I only had a quick look because I felt uncomfortable so I hadn’t appreciated that it wasn’t moderated. Didn’t realise it was just a bit of a free for all![/quote]
I think we would all assume that a safeguarding charity would moderate their boards for children - given everything we know about online abuse.
Unbelievable that it isn't.

I think posts are moderated ie every post is checked by Childline before it goes live (which is pretty alarming seeing what does get through).

However posters are not vetted - there is no way of checking if the 13 year old girl asking about masturbation is actually 13, or female. Of course, because the people posting are supposed to be children there is no way to verify their identity. Which is why it is so alarming these message boards appear to be entirely peer to peer in the replies.

Cripes

Just went on their message boards

Does no one adult monitor it or give adult advice?

Some weirdos will be getting their kicks from there