"Forced consent"

[AcornAutumn]

If someone used this phrase, how would you interpret it?

Rape

Um, as rape. Any kind of compelled "consent" is not valid consent.

Forced consent to sex is rape but likely even harder to prosecute than usual unless the forced person is in a legally vulnerable group e.g. a child.
For some reason I expect it is in an existing couple relationship.
Care to give more context?

A contradiction in terms.

If it is forced then its not consent. The phrase makes no sense.

On FWR, I'd probably associate it with sex-based issues.

More widely, I'd consider civil rights issues ranging from software licences to the more obvious.

I interpret it more as having no choice but to consent as the other option is so bad or non existent that you have to say yes.

If it's to do with sex, rape.

Otherwise, coercion.

But, yes, Michelle has it. It's not consent if it's forced, pressured or not informed.

The manipulation of consent is a term that has been used to describe public relations, marketing, social engineering and brainwashing.

The word "force" is interesting.

Is it a hard, kinetic force? If so it could be used to describe robbery or rape. Something taken by kinetic force.

Soft force tends to refer to influence and could relate to grooming, brainwashing, the gradual erosion of personal boundaries etc.

Thank you

Interesting to see the term brainwashing as that's a term I'm not comfortable using with adults...
I think...not sure.

To me, the term "forced consent" is a nonsense. It can only mean some sort of attack.

A good example of an oxymoron.

What sprang to mind for me was Coercion. Something that does happen often in jails where safety for sex is used as to threaten women into sexual relationships. Surprisingly there are no studies in UK jails how prevalent this is despite a lot of anecdotal evidence. Its almost as though they don;t want to know how much of a problem it is.

To me it would mean coercion.
Someone has only agreed to something as peer pressure, political pressure or relationship pressure has made them feel they have no choice but to go with the general co census being forced upon them

An oxymoron. Feather of lead, bright smoke etc.

Under duress.

Forced consent is no consent at all.

I am familiar with the term ‘implied forced consent’ with regard to adult role play scenarios ie rape scenarios.

Saw it in BBC news article. Arab Christian girls are kidnapped, undergo a "forced conversion" to Islam and then forced to consent to marriage with their kidnapper. If their families lodge legal protests, the court uses the "forced consent" to repudiate accusations of kidnapping and rape.

@GeorgiaGirl52

Saw it in BBC news article. Arab Christian girls are kidnapped, undergo a "forced conversion" to Islam and then forced to consent to marriage with their kidnapper. If their families lodge legal protests, the court uses the "forced consent" to repudiate accusations of kidnapping and rape.

Oh my days

So "forced consent" is already being used as a legal defence?

I must drink more.

I've just seen that phrase used on another thread relating to the WEFs plans for digital passports, starting woth vaccibe passports. It's actually quite scary stuff. The two words together are contradictory.

@HumunaHey

I've just seen that phrase used on another thread relating to the WEFs plans for digital passports, starting woth vaccibe passports. It's actually quite scary stuff. The two words together are contradictory.

Yes, that's my thread and that's why I came here to ask how it was interpreted. I didn't know if I was being over sensitive.

To me, "forced consent" is just another Stroop effect language term that is a nonsense but apparently not many people see that.

A "forced conversion" is not a conversion either!

@AcornAutumn Oh, hadn't noticed your username. You're not being sensitive at all. I hadn't even clicked on your links because I find the way things are heading to be chilling to the core and I feel completely helpless in fighting it.

I sometimes want to just bury my head in the sand and think happy thoughts, as pathetic as that sounds!

I don't want to know what the lady thinks about sexual consent. ☹️

This is both scary and horrendous.

WEF?

@ArabellaScott

WEF?

I'd guess World Economic Forum