Where are the lengthy threads on...

[BeatBox6]

Where are the threads with discussions at length about DV, rape, single mothers stigma, workplace and pay discrimination, harassment and stalking, hyper sexualisation of girls, et al?

These are all problems, FEMINIST issues that have plagued me and many other women. Why aren't important issues being discussed on here regularly?

All I see is TRA threads and one last night about Disney nightwear. Yes, the gender debate is an important feminist issue. No, I am not a TRA, but aren't there other pressing issues we should be discussing at length too? Or am I missing something here?

How? You have no posting history. If you'd written an interesting OP on any of those important topics you'd have got responses.

@donquixotedelamancha Don't you think there's a valid reason why I don't have a posting history? Outing?

I've started several interesting OPs about those topics, but it seems the major focus on this board is the gender debate. I've explained upthread why I think there ought to be space on here for discussion without the trans debate persistently used as point of reference.

And to the poster who asked me to define 'woman'. That just proves my point about it overshadowing almost every thread.

FWIW, woman = Adult Human Female.
Hth.

Don't you think there's a valid reason why I don't have a posting history? Outing?

I have no idea (you could be a troll) but my post assumed that you do- hence the point that it's a bit daft to be so goady and that this would be the ideal time to start threads you don't want linked to your previously shared info.

And to the poster who asked me to define 'woman'. That just proves my point about it overshadowing almost every thread.

My ironymeter has just shorted out. You started this thread on this topic.

@donquixotedelamancha

Don't you think there's a valid reason why I don't have a posting history? Outing?

I have no idea (you could be a troll) but my post assumed that you do- hence the point that it's a bit daft to be so goady and that this would be the ideal time to start threads you don't want linked to your previously shared info.

And to the poster who asked me to define 'woman'. That just proves my point about it overshadowing almost every thread.

My ironymeter has just shorted out. You started this thread on this topic.

@donquixotedelamancha Is there any need to be quite so rude? You have no idea who I am, what my story is, what my circumstances are.

And we never will know anything about you unless you stop telling us what you believe about us and start telling us what you want to say about you.

Ok. To the posters who ask why not start a thread about a topic/the topics I mentioned in my OP. That's because discussing, particularly seeking advice, on here on experiences I've had relating to those specific feminist issues would be extremely outing for me.

There’s nothing to ‘out’ if you’re under a name change, though?

I do see these topics discussed everywhere and am always happy to post on threads like you describe wanting to read.

But if you won’t start a thread on a topic you want to discuss then I’m not sure why you think other people ought to either?

New threads are usually driven by new information- stuff in the news. Usually if I see a story I come here and find it’s already being discussed. Don’t you?

Op, people have explained how this board has become a focal point for discussions about sex based rights and how this isn't entirely our choice.

You have been asked if you would like to start a thread on a topic of your own choosing, either on this board or on another where you would still be assured of a women's perspective. You say you can't, not even with a name change. I'm not sure why that wouldn't work but fair enough and I'm sorry to hear that. The thing is though, if that's the case then I'm honestly not sure what else we can do?

What were you hoping for when you started this thread?

Is there any need to be quite so rude? You have no idea who I am
what my story is, what my circumstances are
Is this actually your first day on the internet?
If you cant take the very mild ribbing that don donquixote dishes out, how will you ever manage the 100s of different opinions on whatever it is you've yet to post.

Gender pay gap thread

If you’re an HR professional, you should know that it’s the sex pay gap, and that it’s sex, not gender which is a protected characteristic in UK legislation.

I’m not an HR professional but I can’t count how many times I’ve had to correct HR colleagues on this matter - when I’m working with them on an EDI committee, ffs!

"Is there any need to be quite so rude?"

Can't say I'm seeing any rudeness from donquixotedelamancha.

You've started a thread berating others for talking about X, why aren't we talking about A, B and C, but oh no you can't do it it would be 'outing'. What are we, your PAs?

I don't care to be lectured by you.

I'm GC and I also agree with you OP, I noticed this yesterday I think it was, reading the thread about small feminist actions to take, and at least 75% of them were trans-related. Yes it's important, but so are many other very current issues. For example, the huge ramifications of the Everyone's Invited website which seems to have really shaken up many schools and universities, and which is particularly relevant to a site aimed at parents. But no, there are whole threads about some comment on Twitter, as if Twitter is real life instead of the online version of drunks ranting in a pub.

It's not a lecture. It was a genuine question.
Others have also noticed the dominance of the Trans debate on this board, so it seems I'm hardly alone in observing this.

I posted this thread also to see what others feel about different topics being posted on here... about issues affecting possibly the most vulnerable women in society.

I might try posting in a different name on here, maybe better on a different board, though have to weigh that up against losing my job and jeopardising my DC.

Be the change you want to be in the world op

There is a huge amount of discussion on this site around DV/DA, pay disparity, workplace and everyday discrimination and sexism. Those topics make up a huge proportion of the threads on MN. They don't happen on FWR because they are just so everyday and universal and because the majority of people on MN are women.

People don't see them as feminist issues because they are issues that are so engrained in everyday life.

If they all got shunted to FWR the way threads around protecting women's rights are the rest of the site would be very quiet indeed.

though have to weigh that up against losing my job and jeopardising my DC.

I would suggest not posting anything that you believe would risk your job or put your children at risk.

Name change regularly so people would find it harder to dox you, and don't give too much personal info out.

I'm GC and I also agree with you OP, I noticed this yesterday I think it was, reading the thread about small feminist actions to take, and at least 75% of them were trans-related. Yes it's important, but so are many other very current issues.

And yet on that very thread the first mention of trans was when a regular derailers decided to post about trans rights on a feminist actions thread.

@MeltsAway

Gender pay gap thread

If you’re an HR professional, you should know that it’s the sex pay gap, and that it’s sex, not gender which is a protected characteristic in UK legislation.

I’m not an HR professional but I can’t count how many times I’ve had to correct HR colleagues on this matter - when I’m working with them on an EDI committee, ffs!

You sound tedious.

The legislation is The Equality Act 2010 (Gender Pay Gap Information) Regulations 2017

We've used the word gender in HR forever, since we got sick of men writing YES PLEASE on forms that asked their sex.

We are not referring to gender identity. We use male and female, statutory payroll fields. But thanks for the pointless correction.

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukdsi/2017/9780111152010

It is a typical example of whefe the word gender has been conflated with sex. PP is correct in that it records the sex pay gap.

@BeatBox6

Where are the threads with discussions at length about DV, rape, single mothers stigma, workplace and pay discrimination, harassment and stalking, hyper sexualisation of girls, et al?

These are all problems, FEMINIST issues that have plagued me and many other women. Why aren't important issues being discussed on here regularly?

All I see is TRA threads and one last night about Disney nightwear. Yes, the gender debate is an important feminist issue. No, I am not a TRA, but aren't there other pressing issues we should be discussing at length too? Or am I missing something here?

Where do you think they are BeatBox6?

I can only speak for myself, but for me the issue of women’s rights and who should have them (something that used not to be in question) is both pressing and interesting.

If that makes me a terrible feminist, then so be it; I can live with the shame.

Not RTFT

OH no! Are we doing it wrong again?

Before all this all the threads were about things that impact women and girls.

Then this blew up and yes the board is pretty much single topic.

If we have no words definition stats then we're fucked

So what who's fault is it that it's single issue now

Clue... Not ours

@GreenTeaPingPong If you want the Everyone’s Invited threads there’s several quite long ones in Secondary Education and one (that I’ve spotted) in Education. Some people are arguing there are too many and that they overlap, but they’re all an interesting read to my mind.

Is there any need to be quite so rude?

I'm sorry you found my post rude (I'm not quite sure which bit) it was intended to be a light-hearted defense of the PP you were criticising for asking about your definition of a woman.

Can't say I'm seeing any rudeness from donquixotedelamancha.

I suspect the issue is a cultural misunderstanding and OP is offended by my use of sarcasm. Amongst my people it's normal to use irony to make disagreement more froendly but some on MN seem to find all irony rude.

I don't get what you're talking about OP. I've just looked at the feminist chat board and it has myriad different threads on varying topics.

Because it's a random group of women posting what they are most interested in during their leasure time?

It's not a job, it's not a worthy endevor to educate all women on all aspects of feminism.

I suspect OP has been told FWR just post on transgender topics and has come to scold us but doesn't want to sully herself by actually reading anything