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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

I'm just angry all the time, anyone else?

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WhyZed · 13/03/2021 10:12

I've loved this place on the Internet but have had to hide it in my topics for more than six months now because I was feeling more and more despondent and angry.
I'm desperate to come back properly but please can someone tell me how to deal with the rage? I'm literally shaking typing this. I know this is a personal issue with me being unable to deal with my feelings but I'm surely not the only one who sees the news, the updates from Scotland and elsewhere and just simmers.
How do you deal with this?

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malloo · 16/03/2021 11:25

Me too OP, I have to limit my time online, pretty sure its not good for my health! A low point was me shouting at my tablet watching the Hate Crime debate last week, kids thought I'd lost the plot Grin. But what would be worse is if you weren't angry because that would mean acceptance. I'm angry but I'm also hopeful, because I think things can change, and anger can be channeled into action. What I've found is it helps to balance reading about it with doing something - writing a letter, donating or thanking someone who is speaking out before I read any more.

WeRoarSometimes · 16/03/2021 12:23

@LevirandalI.
This is exactly how I am feeling.
I'm in a semi rural area and everyone is feeling rainbows, glitter and throwing around the #BeKind nonsense.
I've been removed from a parents WhatsApp group due to raising concerns about Stonewall - the majority of group members are women ad it beggars belief how captured they are.

Violetparis · 16/03/2021 12:52

Did anyone listen to Women's Hour today ? They were discussing the government idea of having undercover policemen in nightclubs. Emma Barnett asked the government minister how will women know who is a real policeman or not ? How would you stop a man pretending to be an undercover policeman in a club ? I'm paraphrasing but I thought those are the same questions and scenarios GC women are trying to raise and mostly we're ignored or dismissed as bigots.

Violetparis · 16/03/2021 12:54

Sorry that wasn't clear, I was thinking of men who self identify as women in the same scenario as the men pretending to be undercover officers.

LucilleTheVampireBat · 16/03/2021 12:56

I am just responding to the OP and then I am going to go back and read the full thread.

Yes, I am angry. I very often wish I hadn't seen it, if that makes sense. As I get older I can't not call out what I see as misogyny and sexism and, as a result, people think of me as a "man-hater". I know it isn't a nice thing to say, but I also find myself angry at misogynistic women, and MN seems to be crawling with them at the moment.

JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown · 16/03/2021 13:03

Yes, I'm angry, although that does alternate with a large portion of misery and frustration. Its been a huge shock to find out just how few people see us as people in our own right.
I feel vastly better about it now than a few years ago though. We've still got a long way to go but this has gained awareness so fast and so many more women are talking about it. It feels like a world of difference.

jessstan2 · 16/03/2021 13:11

I don't understand. I am rarely angry, something has to really 'outrage' me for me to show anger; that does happen occasionally but not often. I feel other emotions such as profound sorrow and sympathy.

Mumsnet doesn't anger me, it's either interesting, sad or silly.

jessstan2 · 16/03/2021 13:14

@WhyZed

I'm sorry but kind of glad I'm not alone in this. Thanks to the poster who suggested boxing. I think something like that would be very good for me. A physical release anyway.
Yes it might (though I never see the point in knocking six bells out of anyone for sport but realise there is more to it than that).

It cannot be very comfortable feeling anger all the time. Do you never relax?

zzizzer · 16/03/2021 13:38

Bless you. I don't think mumsnet is the thing saddening people. Misogyny is the problem here - and of course people will go through waves of anger about things that feel unfair and unjust.

ThisIsSimplyBeyond · 16/03/2021 13:46

Angry is an understatement.

I keep remembering situations that I had genuinely completely forgotten; the (nowadays I'd 100% call him an incel) bloke who stalked me and was obsessed with paying me to "take his virginity", the taxi driver who pulled up in the middle of nowhere and raped me (kindly - so he claimed - in lieu of payment), the ONS who stealthed me.

ChateauMargaux · 16/03/2021 21:50

@ThisIsSimplyBeyond... you have so much to be angry for. I am sorry you have experienced so much direct misogyny. I hope you find a way to feel angry, accept your right to be angry and be grateful that you can express your anger rather than suppressing it.

ChateauMargaux · 16/03/2021 21:55

I feel like I have found the room I need to be in today.

Hello, my name is Chateau and I am furious. I am a birth worker and women around me are erasing female language and silencing and no platforming great women who support other women in a world where the needs of women are rarely properly considered. These birth workers fail to realise the damage we do to a large number of women by failing to speak to them in a language they identify with, using words they use to describe themselves. They claim that are being exclusive but by excluding the voices of women who centre women in their communication they are also excluding women who no longer feel centred by the birth services we provide.

ChateauMargaux · 16/03/2021 22:30

claim they are being inclusive.. excuse typo due to anger..

The rest I have tried to write but it will have to remain spinning round in my internal dialogue of fury ... patriarchical psychiatry, silencing of women, rape, sexual assault,

ACovidofWitches · 16/03/2021 22:38

So so so so so angry I don't know what to do with myself. It's unbearable sometimes and then it settles and I feel more optimistic

jakeyboy1 · 16/03/2021 23:22

I am angry, really I am.

However to lighten the mood a little I just saw a clip of Girls Aloud singing Biology. "You can't escape my biology" made me inwardly smile.... ;)

ChateauMargaux · 16/03/2021 23:38

I offer as an anthem.. 4 non blondes, what's up..
m.youtube.com/watch?v=6NXnxTNIWkc#menu

*25 years and my life is still
Tryin' to get up that great big hill of hope
For a destination

I realized quickly when I knew I should
That the world was made up of this brotherhood of man
For whatever that means

And so I cry sometimes when I'm lying in bed
Just to get it all out what's in my head*

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