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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

It turns out I'm a SuperLesbian

118 replies

SapphosRock · 12/03/2021 09:35

Not sure how I feel about this but it's winding up the TRAs an awful lot.

I guess SuperLesbian is preferable to vagina fetishist or gynophile and at least everyone knows where they stand.

It turns out I'm a SuperLesbian
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IdblowJonSnow · 12/03/2021 10:01

I don't get it either!
I'm straight other than a few minor moments in my youth. Can I get a cape?

allmywhat · 12/03/2021 10:02

Super-bisexual is a fun one isn't it. All those genitals but only in that body/mind configuration.

Not sure what a "body/mind configuration" is meant to mean here- doesn't everyone have a different body/mind configuration? As a superbisexual I exclude people from my dating pool based on an irrational belief system and disconnection from material reality (and based on many other criteria too - realistically I'm not sure it counts as a sexual orientation the way that supergay, superlesbian and superstraight do but it's certainly a convenient label.)

SapphosRock · 12/03/2021 10:03

@FullofCurryandparatha

Has anyone told the straightmenz that they are supposed to be attracted to transwomen (with penises)?

Who decided these new definitions? I'm so lost. What am I: woman married to a man who would probably sleep with, say, the Capt Marvel woman, but is really only actually attracted to a nice cup of tea and a sit down most of the time?

I believe this has come direct from the straightmenz

Lesbians have been instructed / educated / pressured / pleaded with for years to include trans women in their lesbianism and but nobody really noticed or cared because it was a problem happening to a group of women.

Now it's happening to straight men people are starting to take a bit more notice.

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PortHills · 12/03/2021 10:03

You know what though , this is about a young man who doesn’t want to be called transphobic and is looking for a label for himself that compromises. If this solves it for them , I’m fine with it. I hate the idea of people being pressurised to find others sexually attractive when they don’t. There should be no pressure or coercion in this area of your life. Is this a good thing? Off to read the other threads in case I’ve missed a strong argument against.

We just have to ensure that being super anything doesn’t get labelled as transphobic. We have to ensure that young people aren’t put under pressure to be cool / woke , and that everyone respects the individual’s right to define who they are sexually (clue is in the name) attracted to.

SapphosRock · 12/03/2021 10:11

It's all a bit silly and tongue in cheek but does raise important points. If anyone male or female is able to identify into being a lesbian then the word lesbian becomes meaningless. It would be useful to have a word that describes biological women who only want relationships with other biological women. And Super seems to be a pretty good word.

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nauticant · 12/03/2021 10:17

That's exactly what it is. They took trans activists' "logic" and word use, created a new "sexuality" and then watched as trans activists said:

  • your new sexuality/identity isn't valid
  • straight men should be open to sex with transwomen
  • lesbians should be open to sex with transwomen
  • you've driven me into a huge rage that I can't control myself
  • you should be killed.

That's how it's gone. But this time there were loads of men having fun with the #superstraight label who watched with utter astonishment at the violent uncontrolled rage coming from the trans activists as they made countless death threats against those who said they were #superstraight.

Bordois · 12/03/2021 10:20

The point is that after targeting women for not wanting to sleep with trans women the TRAs started to target men, and this is their (straight mens) response.

TRAs overreacted and got slapped down by having their own ideology reflected back at them.

Bordois · 12/03/2021 10:20

Overeached

Childrenofthestones · 12/03/2021 10:22

We've seriously reached the point where being called a bigot by some people can be worn as a badge of honour.

gardenbird48 · 12/03/2021 10:27

@SapphosRock

It's all a bit silly and tongue in cheek but does raise important points. If anyone male or female is able to identify into being a lesbian then the word lesbian becomes meaningless. It would be useful to have a word that describes biological women who only want relationships with other biological women. And Super seems to be a pretty good word.
I’d agree. Congratulations on your Super status!!
DaisiesandButtercups · 12/03/2021 10:28

I don’t think that the graphic is inclusive enough. What if a person is attracted only to men and pre-op transwomen or only women and pre-op transmen? Hmm

SapphosRock · 12/03/2021 10:29

I've actually been blocked from one of my favorite lesbian groups this week for stating that exclusive same sex attraction should be celebrated and not challenged.

The LGBTQ thought police aren't happy about us SuperLesbians existing but we are here, we exist and we are valid.

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MarieFromStTropez · 12/03/2021 10:32

It could be argued that #superstraight/gay/lesbian/bi is the best thing to happen for feminism and gay rights for years.

nauticant · 12/03/2021 10:33

I don’t think that the graphic is inclusive enough. What if a person is attracted only to men and pre-op transwomen or only women and pre-op transmen?

I think you've misunderstood the fundamental point being made here. Sexual orientations do not have to be "inclusive". If the person you mentioned wants to define their own sexual orientation I'm sure they would be supported in doing so by the #super community.

DialSquare · 12/03/2021 10:35

I'm Superstraight and stand with all other Supers. I have no issue with anyone else's sexuality so please respect mine.

SapphosRock · 12/03/2021 10:48

Oh look there's even a new Facebook group for SuperLesbians and their allies:

www.facebook.com/groups/2952750144957580/?ref=share

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littlbrowndog · 12/03/2021 10:53

Yeah the Reddit was banned as was the fundraiser for Vancouver rape shelter

nauticant · 12/03/2021 10:54

It spread to LipstickAlley where it really resonated:

www.lipstickalley.com/threads/teens-superstraight-hashtag-goes-viral-trans-activists-threaten-to-kill-his-mother.4463413/

and was on Reddit where there was an enormous war which was decided in favour of trans activists and all the #supers were erased:

<a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/old.reddit.com/r/SuperStraight/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">archive.ph/old.reddit.com/r/SuperStraight/

SapphosRock · 12/03/2021 11:04

Oh wow nauticant I didn't realise it had been so controversial.

Looks like the Supers will be going underground.

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FindTheTruth · 12/03/2021 11:09

super sunlight

Zinco · 12/03/2021 11:10

As many people pointed out, "superstraight" actually makes more sense as a sexuality than a lot of the other new concepts being thrown out there. So it can be viewed as kind of a joke, yes, but also kind of serious.

How does the "tolerant" side react? The side that says you need to respect people's identities? Well they didn't like this identity at all!

I was reading an argument that it's not a real sexuality and genitals are just a "preference". Yeah, because it's the same sort of thing as liking tall men or a certain hair colour.

Zinco · 12/03/2021 11:26

I’m confused. If transwomen are women, and transmen are men, why do we need these new labels to distinguish between trans people’s identity labels and biological sex? Isnt this ‘transphobic’ by its own standards?

Because if society is going along with the idea that TWAW, but you are only into e.g. biological women, (if male), then that itself may create the need to specify different types of "straightness".

That, and the idea I think, was that by claiming it as a sexual identity, the position should therefore be respected as other identities are.

SapphosRock · 12/03/2021 11:31

I'm genuinely confused over why it's such a big deal.

Surely it would be really helpful on OLD?

If I was on the lookout for a partner it would help me to know if they were Lesbian or SuperLesbian.

If I was a TW I would find it helpful to know if a woman would be open to a relationship. I'd also wish to avoid pursuing a relationship with a SuperLesbian which would just waste everybody's time.

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NecessaryScene1 · 12/03/2021 11:43

I'm genuinely confused over why it's such a big deal.

Because you're dealing with people who do not have a normal/healthy attitude to people's desires or needs.

The reaction makes perfect sense as long as you realise that it's coming from people who think other people are just supporting players.

That's one of the most effective things about the Super concept - it makes superphobes jump up and down and reveal what they think about other people having their own needs. For some of us it's confirmation of what we know, but many people are seeing it for the first time.

It takes a while to fully grasp how narcissistic the superphobes are. Sure, they're also often homophobic and misogynist as well as superphobic, but the narcissism is the root cause. They really just discriminate against everyone who isn't themselves.

FullofCurryandparatha · 12/03/2021 12:23

So to get this straight (no pun intended), people who are constantly campaigning for inclusivity and for all sexualities to be recognised and celebrated are getting really upset at sexuality being recognised and celebrated?

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