I've got my paper census - remind me what I do?

[WookeyHole]

Having read a thread on here about how to register a protest without upsetting the quality of data collected, I ordered a paper census and now can't find the thread .

Please can someone remind what I was supposed to do? Or should I hang in until after the judicial review anyway? Sorry, I'm struggling to keep up on this one.

It's arrived, hooray!

@Zeugma

From comments on here I gathered that every adult can request a paper copy, even if they live in the same household. I ordered one and DH also ordered one separately - we intended to fill them both in and include a copy of the letter each.

My paper copy arrived (after quite a wait); his hasn't. He's re-requested one but can anyone confirm that it's permissible for each adult in a household to complete separate forms?

Thanks

It says in the form you can order an "additional person form" for people who don't want to give their details to the person filling in the main form.

^^ This. You don't need multiple copies of the main form but individuals can request their own individual form and if you have more than five normal residents or three visitors then you need continuation forms for those additional people.

Toffee
I ordered a paper version.

DH (picks up card) shall I fill this in online then?
Me - no I ordered paper
DH - only takes ten mins, why ... ohhhh... are you going to do... some kind or protest?
Me - maybe...
DH - alrighty...

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Are you in my house?!

Mine arrived today, I requested it abiit a week ago.

Door knockers you say? Mmmm, there will be some interesting door step conversations occurring I reckon.

Wasn’t it the case that sufficient people put Jedi that it had to be registered as an official religion???

If so, if we all put gender critical as our religion, wouldn’t that give us some protections under a protected characteristic of religious belief?

I'd missed the good news yesterday that the ONS have conceded the case and accepted the interim ruling!

The sex in the census website has updated their letter, but I think it's got a typo. Based on the text I do think it would still be worth sending in a paper copy. I'm going to see if there's a way of making contact and check if it's a typo - perhaps you can let me know what you think? I might be reading it wrong?

This is a screenshot from the updated letter - shouldn't the word sex be after the word biological in bold?

Actually there's another gremlin on the website. If you go from the homepage > 'From March 1st' or 'On March 21st' via buttons near the bottom of the home page you get the new letter, but if you go via 'take action' in the top menu bar, and then the same two choices you get the old letter. Unless that's my cookies?

I'm not seeing the new letter at all either in the bottom of the screen or the take action option 🤷‍♀️

so i got my paper one today - but only one? Don't I need one for each family member?

How are we meant to be filling it out now?

ignore me, I've just seen I can fill it out for up to 5 people

so i got my paper one today - but only one? Don't I need one for each family member?

The norm is one form (or online return) for the whole household - you don't need a form per person.

How are we meant to be filling it out now?

The judicial review win means that people must answer question 3, about their sex, according to their birth certificate (or gender recognition certificate).

The letter to send with the paper copy sexinthecensus.org/on-census-night/ is about registering a protest that it should be your actual sex, regardless of GRC. The reason for making it a letter is that comments written on the form will simply be ignored; forms will be computer-read and provided your answer can be worked out from the content of the boxes anything extraneous will be ignored.

It's not like an election where a human sees every form and any spoiled ballot goes to the returning officer.

So there's no point writing comments on the form; you need to send the covering letter, because it requires a response.

If you ask for a paper copy and it doesn't arrive in time, just wait - it will - and if it doesn't a census officer will almost certainly visit to see why your household hasn't completed the form, and will be able to give you a paper copy on the spot.

It's not in any sense an offence to fill the form out late - you might (in normal times anyway) be away on holiday on the day and provided you fill it out as soon as you can thereafter that's fine. So saying to the census officer "I requested a paper form but it hasn't come yet" is absolutely fine.

In case anyone is confused about why the Census action is going ahead in spite of FPFW getting ONS to change their guidance about the sex question...

1. FPFW have forced ONS to ask for 'legal sex' (i.e. as stated on birth certificate or GRA) in relation to the sex question, rather than gender identity. Which is brilliant.
2. BUT we need to return to biological sex as stated on ones birth certificate. Nothing else makes any sense in statistical terms.
3. This campaign is intended to keep the pressure on. It's important.

PLEASE: ask for a paper copy - either 1 per household or 1 per person.
Complete the form. Leave the gender identity question blank.
Print out and sign the template letter on the Sex in the Census website: sexinthecensus.org/on-census-night/
Include it with your Census form and send it in.

I've done exactly that today - I had to reword the template letter a bit

@minchinfin

I've done exactly that today - I had to reword the template letter a bit

It generally looks better to reword template letters anyway. Doing so shows that you thought about it and didn't just knee-jerk or bandwagon-jump.

I can see the new version now, I've also tweaked because I wanted to add a paragraph with regards to TRAs now stating they'll be lying on the census, the ONS should have stuck to the definition by law from the start and my hope that lessons have been learned and we won't get a repeat of this shitshow situation for future censuses.

Bumpette. Happy Census Day!

@Manderleyagain

I expect you could send the letter, giving your full details so they can cross reference it?

I think this is worth a go if you filled it in online.

Bumpette. Happy Census Day.

If your paper copy hasn't arrived, don't panic. You can fill it in late and/or the census officers will be calling round later this month to help any non-fillers-in. They will have paper copies you can use.

Let's hear it for biological sex!

Also bumping I'm filling mine in now and had to check what the latest guidance was.
The Sex in the Census advice is still to fill in a paper one and add an accompanying letter:
sexinthecensus.org/f-a-q/

Oooops! The printer has run out of ink so I have had to write out my letter by hand. I pity the poor soul who has to read (and decipher) it!!

I've done mine, left the gender question blank and will print off the letter.

I was feeling a bit mischievous and marked DD2 down as asexual.
That's what happens when you leave form filling to your Mum.

In 100 years from now... family genealogists will be looking at these and saying ‘what the bloody he’ll was going on in 2021 - ohhhhh the first Black Covid epidemic... must’ve melted their brains or something...’

I won’t say what I put... needless to say 🤣

We ordered a paper copy and both filled in the same copy (with kids details too obvs). We both printed out the letters and put two letters, one in his name and one in mine, in with the family form. I am sure you don't need two forms even if you are sending two letters.

If you have filled in the online one and still want to send the letter - can you not do so nay way? They are still processing your data and you've still got rights over how that data is held and processed surely ? And if they have to match the letter to the online form then that's their problem.

Filled it in, attached a slightly amended letter... along the lines of the gender question would surely be better with the religion question as its measuring a belief. And popped an Adult Human Female sticker on it for good measure 👍