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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Tuesday 9th March - could be a big day

913 replies

Xanthangum · 08/03/2021 18:01

  1. Helen Staniland and Glinner giving evidence to the Commons
  1. Fair Play For Women VS UK Statistics Authority at Royal Courts of Justice at 10am
  1. The Court of Appeal and Harry/ We Are Fair Cop - The Court of Appeal will examine the validity of the College of Police Hate Crimes Guidance

I wanted to start a thread where any major decisions or outcomes and links to anyone live tweeting or online footage. See you back here tomorrow!

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MichelleofzeResistance · 09/03/2021 15:31

Thank you so much for the sharing and explaining of tweets, I just read from the start with much nail biting! Hurrah for common sense!

I did particularly enjoy the 'so long as the person who wrote it didn't believe it was false' - hey, the census now apparently involves a Vulcan mind meld! Thank you for your answers, let us check what you genuinely believed at the time you wrote them.....

Nic Williams and FPFW you bloody marvels. FlowersFlowersFlowers If the only point of the census is feelz and image then wtf are we bothering for? Its not like the UK couldn't use all that taxpayer money for something actually productive right now.

poorbuthappy · 09/03/2021 15:32

@KitchenFairy

parliamentlive.tv/event/index/5236fc59-47ae-41c9-93f7-4ea16b5782c3

Try this

nauticant · 09/03/2021 15:32

It's starting to hit the press:

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/swift-campaigners-office-for-national-statistics-census-high-court-b923116.html

Whether progressive publications will want to report it is another question.

FindTheTruth · 09/03/2021 15:32

Glinner said feminists with over 10k followers get targeted and kicked off twitter

FindTheTruth · 09/03/2021 15:33

It's starting to hit the press:

about fucking time 🙄

McDuffy · 09/03/2021 15:33

Graham and Helen are doing well!

KitchenFairy · 09/03/2021 15:33

@poorbuthappy it worked - thank you!

MenopausalCrone · 09/03/2021 15:35

OMG, Glinner is smashing it! He's saying everything that has been said on here for months, years!!

SeaShoreGalore · 09/03/2021 15:36

Sorry to ask a potentially stupid question here, but... so if the judge is saying that people should record their sex as it appears on their birth certificate, does that not mean that a trans woman could record their sex as female, even though they were born male as they would have their birth certificate changed once they legally transitioned?

So we still wouldn't have accurate figures?

WeAreJackieWeaver · 09/03/2021 15:36

I didn’t know Graham and his wife had separated due to the stress of this. That’s really sad. Sad

CaveMum · 09/03/2021 15:36

Go glinner! He's on a roll right now Grin

Helleofabore · 09/03/2021 15:37

Thank you to FPFW and all involved in this census debacle! FlowersFlowers

Helleofabore · 09/03/2021 15:38

Thank you Helen and @Glinner!

Biscuitsanddoombar · 09/03/2021 15:38

Yes Jackie :( TRA laugh at him about it on a regular basis

CaveMum · 09/03/2021 15:38

@WeAreJackieWeaver

I didn’t know Graham and his wife had separated due to the stress of this. That’s really sad. Sad
I did notice that in the "Motherland" Christmas Special closing credits she had reverted to her maiden name, but wasn't sure if that was a business decision.
MenopausalCrone · 09/03/2021 15:38

He is a solid gold fucking hero and I'm in tears listening to him

PerfectPenquins · 09/03/2021 15:38

Switching between Fair cop and Graham. What a day! Grahams statement just now is brilliant.

purpleboy · 09/03/2021 15:39

In a nutshell Glinner!! He is great!

AngelaMerkelEyeRoll · 09/03/2021 15:39

Helen has been brilliant. Very calm and clear.

Graham is on fire with his statement, reading it now. I'm sad that he and his wife have separated under the strain. He's a great ally.

Scout2016 · 09/03/2021 15:39

Really pleased Helen and Graham are coming from slightly different angles on this. Covering such a lot of ground.

Thanks for this thread OP and to everyone for their updates and contributions. What a day!

ChattyLion · 09/03/2021 15:40

FPFW StarGlitterballStarGlitterball
Thank you so much so great to get this far congratulations!

Currently listening to Glinner’s address to committee- excellent. Linking this back to Stonewall’s refusal to engage in response to the petition asking to lower the temperature and debate. Pointing out that women’s rights are not transphobic and chilling effect of JKR witch hunt. Shaping effect of social media platforms. This is barnstorming. ‘Men are not women’ is not hate speech. Lesbians and women canaries down the coal mine. Discourse and policy is anti-democratically being decided by TRAs. This is a wider problem than social media companies.

AngelaMerkelEyeRoll · 09/03/2021 15:40

Bravo Glinner. Bravo Flowers

thecompletenonsequitur · 09/03/2021 15:40

Glinner - that was fantastic.

nauticant · 09/03/2021 15:40

A transwoman would need a Gender Recognition Certificate to change their birth certificate but firstly this is how the law was actually intended to operate and secondly only a very small percentage of trans people obtains GRCs (so long as self-ID doesn't become law) SeaShoreGalore.

The Gender Recognition Act is not helpful but government departments operating in accordance with a twisted version of the law as spread by Stonewall is far worse.

Chrysanthemum5 · 09/03/2021 15:41

@SeaShoreGalore yes someone with a GRC can get an amended birth certificate and would be able to put their GRC sex rather than biological sex - but that's only about 5000 people