Janice Turner on Rise Brighton and refuges for women

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www.thetimes.co.uk/article/9c3909d4-787d-11eb-80c3-8cc375faed89?shareToken=9c2eda5c5c29ca1866884694ca1174ce

She just gets it, every time.

Yes, she does. Good to see the pernicious nature of luxury beliefs getting an airing in a mainstream space.

Ever since Glinner and Jane Clare Jones discussed it, I hope that Ellul's Propaganda also becomes better known.

thecommonroomblog.com/2012/07/propaganda-by-ellul.html

Thanks for the share token, OP

But, as Rise’s fate shows, even inclusivity won’t save you. Stonewall promotes “gender-neutral” services not because they’re fairer but because it denies that biological sex matters.

How can they acknowledge that 91% of victims are female then remove the very services the majority needs.

Mind blowing article.

Janice always gets it. Another great article. Thanks OP.

"those who want to eliminate women-only refuges are unlikely to need one....They won’t have to bundle up their kids and a few belongings quickly while their husband is out"

Wow. just wow. and the statistic that 4 families applied for every refuge place last year and this year it's NINE families applying for each refuge place. The experience these organisations have built up over years and years is too valuable to quantify only in monetary terms.

That is an excellent article. She nails it every time.

There is also an article in the Scottish section:

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/d360fb9a-7861-11eb-80c3-8cc375faed89?shareToken=5dc3db59a6eaa3a97c5766d23b8589fc

Oh I've got goosebumps!
When she said about smashing things down it reminded me of Damian Barr targeting Baroness Nicholson, despite her amazing charity work it's the way they work

Judicial review?

Is there a case for a judicial review?

@Whatsnewpussyhat

How can they acknowledge that 91% of victims are female then remove the very services the majority needs.

It's almost as if it's about posturing rather than helping the majority of victims and children.

It's almost as if the numbers in the Stonewall benchmarks, checkmarks and index, get translated into public £££ contracts and total up to the grand sum of £££ defunding. Check.

Not just gender neutral service - also far fewer staff in the new 'model'. So the massively oversubscribed helpline and casework service now becomes the dangerously oversubscribed service.

Oh she gets it. And she sums up Stonewall well Stonewall, which campaigns to abolish single-sex spaces

Excellent article. Thank you, Janice.

Quite a difference in tone between the comments under Janice Turner's article (which are heartening and broadly supportive of women only spaces) and the one in the Scottish edition (which are disappointing).

I want to be Janice Turner when I grow up.

I am almost finished listening to Alexandra Heminsley's book, "Somebody to Love". In that she speaks about an interview she has with Rise, which is the charity mentioned by Janice here. AH is the author whose husband transitioned after her baby was born. I like her writing a lot, except towards the end of the book the cognitive dissonance is so high it becomes uncomfortable listening.

Anyway, she speaks of her thought process around working with Rise. She speaks at length of needing to ensure that the charity would work with transpeople as well as with women. There is the description of the interview. There is her relief that "of course, this is Brighton, we will work with transwomen".

So in a newly published novel, on this subject, on the one hand the charity shows an acceptable face towards transpeople. A couple of months later is it defunded.

Nothing is enough. I had a conversation online about DV with a male colleague. He was unsympathetic. He sent me a video on FB of a woman attacking a man, saying it goes both ways.

The level of vitriol, womanhating, backlash in society currently is really really worrying.

Yes Joody and we are already losing meaningful statistics about what proportion of victims are female.

She nailed it, as usual, from her very first paragraph about 'luxury beliefs'.

I'm glad that she got in the bit about Stonewall campaigning to end single sex spaces as well, because I really don't think many people know that. I can still hardly believe it myself and always wonder if they will take it down, but I have just looked and it's still there!

www.stonewall.org.uk/women-and-equalities-select-committee-inquiry-transgender-equality

Recommending removing access to single sex spaces to the Women's and Equalities Select Committee, I mean...Come the fuck ON!

Those whose idea of activism is hashtags and Twitter pile-ons don’t build their own services. They only smash things down.

Brilliant. Just brilliant.

Organisations like Stonewall could fund a trans-only refuge tomorrow. They have the money, they have the cachet, the access to donors, the ability to buy expertise. Everything.

They don't want to create a trans service. They want to smash women's services.

Exactly Wildish! They are so lacking in creativity in how to support trans people. Do they really think that enforced pronouns in emails will make a difference? We do know what trans people are more likely to live in poverty, struggle with employment, have housing issues. Stonewall could fund some actual services even if they didn’t deliver them themselves but they don’t want to do that. They prefer to have nice back slapping meetings in Whitehall or in corporate law/finance conference rooms with proper coffee and nice biscuits. So much more civilised than getting your hands dirty by eg running a refuge for trans people

Thanks for share token. Hope this is widely read.

I'm so pleased she said families vying for shelter spaces, and not just women. The fact that so often women fleeing violence have their children with them is being ignored by the 'inclusive' crowd.