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Feminism: Sex and gender discussions

Janice Turner on Rise Brighton and refuges for women

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TheFleegleHasLanded · 27/02/2021 00:27

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/9c3909d4-787d-11eb-80c3-8cc375faed89?shareToken=9c2eda5c5c29ca1866884694ca1174ce

She just gets it, every time.

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FindTheTruth · 14/05/2021 05:25

Here's the government response

The Government has responded to the petition – “Require local authorities to fund specific domestic abuse services for women”.

Government responded:

Domestic Abuse is a form of Violence Against Women and Girls (VAWG) and the Government recognises that there is need for specific services for women. Its scale and impact warrant a dedicated strategy.

The Government recognises that domestic abuse is a gendered crime. Over two million adults suffer domestic abuse each year with women twice as likely to be victims. We recognise too that the vast majority of severe injury and domestic homicide victims are women (www.gov.uk/government/statistics/domestic-abuse-in-england-and-wales-november-2020).

No one should have to suffer the pain of this abhorrent crime. That is why this Government has made tackling domestic abuse and supporting victims a priority.

Since 2014 we have invested £205 million in support for domestic abuse safe accommodation services – including £125 million for the new local authority duty (included in the Domestic Abuse Act) in 2021/22.

In addition, we have provided £1.5 million for migrant victims, £6.4 million for the National Domestic Abuse Helpline since 2016, over £20 million in frontline and support services for victims of domestic abuse, and £17 million over three years (2017/18 – 2019/20) for support through Police and Crime Commissioners (PCCs) and local authorities.

For 2021/22, in addition to their core funding, PCCs were provided a further £9 million specifically for domestic abuse victim support services and £27 million to recruit more Independent Sexual Violence Advisors and Independent Domestic Violence Advisors.

We know how important high-quality support is to helping victims to recover from the trauma of domestic abuse and to move on with their lives. We agree that tailored support is vital to ensuring women receive the right and appropriate types of support and we expect all services commissioned to be gender-informed. Services must adhere to the law under the Equality Act for single sex provisions (www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/contents).

The Domestic Abuse Act 2021 (www.legislation.gov.uk/nia/2021/2/contents) includes a new duty on local authorities to assess the accommodation-based support needs of all victims and commission appropriate support services to meet those needs.

To accompany the new duties on local authorities within the Domestic Abuse Act the Government will set out its clear expectations in Statutory Guidance with the aim of ensuring all victims of domestic abuse have access to the right support within safe accommodation when they need it.

The Guidance will be clear that in assessing local needs, local authorities should use the expertise and knowledge of local and national specialist domestic abuse services to support in identifying and understanding the level and types of needs. The Guidance will also be clear that support should be provided by experienced and knowledgeable specialist providers, charities and other voluntary organisations whose purpose is to provide support to victims of domestic abuse.

Services commissioned under the new duty should be meet Government and the domestic abuse sector quality standards – which include a commitment that support in safe accommodation should be provided in single-gender settings.

The Government will continue to work closely with local authorities, the domestic abuse sector and the Domestic Abuse Commissioner as the duty is implemented, to ensure that support is delivered in the right way.

Domestic abuse is a high-prevalence, high-harm form of Violence Against Women and Girls (VAWG). Its scale and impact warrant a dedicated strategy. This does not mean we consider domestic abuse to be in any way separate from VAWG, nor intend to stop classifying it as VAWG. Indeed, many forms of VAWG take place within the context of domestic abuse.

By developing two complementary VAWG and domestic abuse strategies, this ensures sufficient focus is placed on existing and lesser understood forms of VAWG, as well as new and emerging forms, whilst providing scope to tackle the wide range of ways in which domestic abuse manifests.

The dual strategy approach will serve to redouble the Government’s efforts to tackle violence against women and girls.

We are currently considering all of the evidence submitted during the recent Call for Evidence and we will use this to inform our approach.

Ministry of Housing, Communities and Local Government

The Petitions Committee will take a look at this petition and its response. They can press the government for action and gather evidence. If this petition reaches 100,000 signatures, the Committee will consider it for a debate.

The Committee is made up of 11 MPs, from political parties in government and in opposition. It is entirely independent of the Government. Find out more about the Committee: petition.parliament.uk/help#petitions-committee

YouSetTheTone · 14/05/2021 08:08

Services must adhere to the law under the Equality Act for single sex provisions (www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2010/15/contents).

And
Services commissioned under the new duty should be meet Government and the domestic abuse sector quality standards – which include a commitment that support in safe accommodation should be provided in single-gender settings.

Probably lays out the government’s position on this doesn’t it. Somehow I don’t think they’ve interpreted the Single Sex provisions to conclude that you can use that exemption. Happy to be proved wrong?!

Stonewalled.

Single GENDER provision isn’t going to be much use to a woman traumatised by abuse or rape from a man is it?

Tibtom · 14/05/2021 08:35

A 'gender neutral' service would be one that makes adjustment for gender - so would provide additional resources for feminine individuals to recognise their oppression and mean the final service is neutral to the effects of gender.

What this is is gender blind services.

And yes, I accept it doesn't make sense to base these services on gender not sex.

FindTheTruth · 14/05/2021 10:13

Stonewalled.

Single GENDER provision isn’t going to be much use to a woman traumatised by abuse or rape from a man is it?

It's a disappointing government response and as you say, ignores single sex exemptions. It needs 100k signatures before GENDER provision vs SEX provision will be debated in parliament. even then will MPs have the freedom to speak the truth about Hypervigilance, data and facts? or toe the Stonewall line.

stumbledin · 14/05/2021 14:43

We're just back in that vicious circle. Government refers to exemptions under the EA.

So called experts than start saying this means women only includes trans women ...

And so it goes on.

Why cant then just spell it out once and for all.

In a way it is a shame that the petition fell into the trap of using the current nu-speak instead of sticking with how they started out, talking about women. "gender neutral" allows councils and others to ignore what the petition is actually about. Sex specific.

By the way , thanks for this update. But actually think this should have been a new thread as it is much more than being about Rise. They were just the latest example. Sad Angry

FindTheTruth · 14/05/2021 15:15

@stumbledin I did think about starting a new thread but then I worried that @mnhq would move it to the petitions board and as you say this topic is about much more, affecting women's rights everywhere It belongs in FWR. Might try it

stumbledin · 14/05/2021 16:27

@FindTheTruth - oh yes, that silly petition rule. Confused

Maybe just post the words with no link?

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