Creator of “assigned male” comics is a “little”

[HermioneWeasley]

Statement here. Basically a “little” is an adult baby fetish. Sophie draws their image as a young girl and fantasises about sleep overs with other little girls where they talk about their genitals. Anyone else think this has more red flags than a Chinese communist party shindig?

[Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud]

SL has just admitted that it is a link. Nobody is surprised. Now it's "I have a kink, get over it"

Well... Do we really have to get over it when it involves publicly creating and sharing pictures based on infants?! Even if they are "just cartoons"?! What on earth?!?!

[Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud]

It feels like our ability to say "I don't want this content around my kids" / "This kind of paraphilia brings up safeguarding concerns, can we talk about this?" is being reduced. (Politically- eg. There was AC who's father enacted out their paraphilia, where any questions about AC were viewed as phobia)

[OvaHere]

Also throwing the whole LGBT under the bus with them. Nothing to see here everyone is like me.

[JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown]

Its clearly a lot more than that. I'm not going to link to the account (fairly sure I'll get deleted) and I'm sure as hell not going to share a screenshot, but the assigned male twitter account is retweeting from their 'alternative queer 18+' account and there are a lot worse drawings on there than the furry in the nappy, including one with two people, one with a clear erection, the other much smaller in only underwear, seemingly underage and surrounded by stuffed toys.
This is clearly not about just liking colouring and playing with lego and the fact that those images are still up despite the hoo-ha, tells me that this isn't an accidental thing, its a deliberate attempt to shift boundaries.
I'm also going to mention that the main account is supposedly child friendly and 'educational' but its retweeting explicit content from the alt one.
I can't believe people are still defending this person.

[Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud]

"no, there's no reason why SL couldn't go on school trips away with pupils overnight, I can't believe in 2021 you would kink shame in this way"... "There needs to be more visibility of this to normalise it"...

[Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud]

www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/feb/09/kink-anthology-book-fear-shame

Remember this article "more visibility"

[nauticant]

Interesting developments since the story broke. Labelle went to ground, there was a wave of outrage, Labelle got support for the "coming out" statement, and since then there's been growing support on social media about how the frankly alarming images are completely harmless and have no sexually related aspect whatsoever. For example, in the case of trans people, being a "little" is about reclaiming a lost childhood having had a "wrong sex" childhood. The supporters are saying that because the criticism and disgust comes from a place of transphobia, Labelle deserves uncritical support. Seeing opinion swinging round somewhat, Labelle has reinstated the pervy images account. There's still plenty of criticism from rational people on social media though.

History is being rewritten. While the reality was that images were found, there was near universal disgust, Labelle hid, and then produced the damage limitation statement, the new reality is that, unprompted, Labelle bravely "came out as a little" and this triggered unjustified anger and hateful and transphobic responses.

It's still in the balance and I think Labelle will be permanently harmed by this but there are plenty of people who think this can simply be brushed aside. There will surely be some people looking at how this is playing out and noting with interest how Labelle's identity is providing them with a significant amount of protection.

[Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud]

It's the way that

1. SL is celebrated as an author for children
   
2. SL's mainstream drawings are designed to be appealing and "cute", so children like SL's pictures
   
3. SL then does adult content in the same style

[Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud]

@OvaHere

Also throwing the whole LGBT under the bus with them. Nothing to see here everyone is like me.

No no no no! You don't speak for other people SL!

[OvaHere]

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[nauticant]

They're seeing there's a wave of support (it might be illusory) and are attempting to ride it into safer waters. The safer waters being that people's instinctive responses get papered over with "oh, many people think this is OK and since I don't want to be transphobic maybe I should think that too".

[Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud]

History is being rewritten

Yep, there are now a whole section of Twitter saying that it's only TERFs and phobes who'd see anything wrong in doing what SL did.

[Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud]

@nauticant

They're seeing there's a wave of support (it might be illusory) and are attempting to ride it into safer waters. The safer waters being that people's instinctive responses get papered over with "oh, many people think this is OK and since I don't want to be transphobic maybe I should think that too".

This is so true. Stonewall really needs to come out and say that this has nothing to do with the LGBTQ community. That exeptance without exception does not equal accepting every kink into every area of life without boundaries. That when images of children are involved it is ok to consider safeguarding. Say something Stonewall.

[Mumofgirlswholiketoplaywithmud]

*acceptance

[YetAnotherSpartacus]

Yep, there are now a whole section of Twitter saying that it's only TERFs and phobes who'd see anything wrong in doing what SL did

I wonder what various MPs might think if asked? Or, more to the point, how they might frame their thoughts in words.

[Wrongsideofhistorymyarse]

No more LARPing, Sophie?

[manatsu]

For example, in the case of trans people, being a "little" is about reclaiming a lost childhood having had a "wrong sex" childhood

If that were true, it wouldn't have a massive sexual element, surely?

I appreciate that people who are trans, people who missed out on childhood due to disability, people who had traumatic childhoods might find comfort in drawing and colouring and having a stuffed animal and that's more than fine. But for Labelle, it's clearly highly sexualised. Labelle used photographs of actual babies as models for their sexual drawings. That is not ok.

[manatsu]

And being trans and having questionable kinks are emphatically NOT the same thing, as I'm sure any trans person would tell you. Labelle does not get to use their trans status as a shield here. I'm sick of this weird people who say they have a trans identity can apparently do whatever they want and be above reproach thing.

[Kettlingur]

@JustTurtlesAllTheWayDown

Its clearly a lot more than that. I'm not going to link to the account (fairly sure I'll get deleted) and I'm sure as hell not going to share a screenshot, but the assigned male twitter account is retweeting from their 'alternative queer 18+' account and there are a lot worse drawings on there than the furry in the nappy, including one with two people, one with a clear erection, the other much smaller in only underwear, seemingly underage and surrounded by stuffed toys.
This is clearly not about just liking colouring and playing with lego and the fact that those images are still up despite the hoo-ha, tells me that this isn't an accidental thing, its a deliberate attempt to shift boundaries.
I'm also going to mention that the main account is supposedly child friendly and 'educational' but its retweeting explicit content from the alt one.
I can't believe people are still defending this person.

Labelle seems to be celebrating Labelle's kink now that Labelle has had some positive attention for it. I also saw the picture with the erection and the little person surrounded by toys. Shudder.

We have to remember Labelle is a person who talks, writes and draws to kids.

And people are going on about how paying attention to this is transphobia? I'd like to reference a person who was banned from here and who talked a lot about safeguarding..

[Wrongsideofhistorymyarse]

@manatsu

And being trans and having questionable kinks are emphatically NOT the same thing, as I'm sure any trans person would tell you. Labelle does not get to use their trans status as a shield here. I'm sick of this weird people who say they have a trans identity can apparently do whatever they want and be above reproach thing.

Absolutely.

[OvaHere]

For example, in the case of trans people, being a "little" is about reclaiming a lost childhood having had a "wrong sex" childhood.

I don't buy that explanation but even if I did this doesn't apply to Labelle who said in a post yesterday their chosen age role-play persona was that of a little boy.

[PotholeParadies]

So someone may be seeking out images of young children, in order to use them as models to base sexual drawings on. Just drawings would be legally publishable, I presume.

Anyone defending this needs to think through the steps and the thought process that gets you from seeing a picture of a toddler going swimming to having an 18+ account (and attached patreon) that publishes artwork based on that picture.

[PotholeParadies]

*such drawings, not just

[nauticant]

I've been watching the way the wind is blowing on twitter. Weighing it up I'd say distinctly against Labelle. There are plenty of angry alphabet people, anime avatars, declared pronouns, furries, ageplayers, and DID identified who see this as extremely harmful publicity for the kink/trans/alternative identity umbrella.