For all those who are happy with TW in single-sex spaces if they have “had the op”

[MoleSmokes]

So you would not be happy with Blaire White in your public toilets/changing rooms/refuges etc. but you would be OK with Jessica?

Apparently, JY is not only being “lewd and inappropriate” to the female firefighters sent to lift JY out of the bath twice a day but has been harassing women on Twitter, by tagging them in posts with selfies of the suppurating neo-vag and asking them for advice 🤮

”JY is back and worse than ever”

This is the dilemma that will arise if you go down the ”but true trans are OK” route of gate-keeping women’s spaces.

@AlfonsoTheTerrible

I think that Yaniv has a personality disorder rather than a mental illness for which sectioning would be appropriate.

Whatever JY has it includes a propensity to attack people violently. Court cases soon, due to attacks on Journalists, repeatedly whacking one with a metal walking stick.

Yes, thank you. I have been aware of Yaniv's activities for a couple of years now.

I am not convinced that Jonathan* Yaniv has had surgery to transition.

Bathing twice daily after surgery? Women are advised not to bath for 5/7/10/28 days after various gynecological procedures.

I’m not sure of the details of creating a vagina from a penis but it would surely involve incisions that normally need to be kept dry after surgery.

Perhaps his surgery consisted of breast implants instead as that is considered by some to be part of sexual reassignment surgery and you could conceivably be in a bath tub whilst keeping the incisions dry.

*Note for Mods - previous posts referring to Jonathan have been allowed to stand in accordance with moderation guidelines and the ‘Karen White principle’. He is a case of extreme and criminal behaviour prior to transitioning.

Actually, I want to amend my post.

Obviously, his sexual reassignment surgery isn’t gynecological. It doesn’t affect gynecological organs like the cervix or uterus.

Perhaps it would just be considered cosmetic?

Anyway, advice to women to avoid baths would not be relevant. Standard post operative wound care would be relevant so still a little surprised at bathing twice a day as my experience of (not sexual reassignment) surgery required cleaning the wounds and stitches but not under any circumstances soaking in undistilled water.

@AdHominemNonSequitur

I feel like she must some how be secretly gender critical. Could any one individual be said to be doing more to win over hearts and minds for the arguement for sex protected spaces than JY. Though on a personal level, my boundaries do not include toilets (I would hapily share my facilities with Trans Women in the women's, or men in unisex toilets for that matter), it is not my place to tell other women where their boundaries should be. I think the Trans Women being unsafe in the men's loo arguement is bogus, because Trans Men use the men's loo by choice all the time, as far as I can tell the crime stats do not back up toilet attacks in the UK (that may be different elsewhere) and if you can self ID into any loo, then by default the men who would harm trans women in the men's will follow them into the women's. The arguement put forward that men will come into the loos anyway to attack if they want to, negates the arguement that trans women would be safer there. But all of it is nonsense. It's a social contract, backed up by the legislation in the event it is abused. Anyone can walk into any tolilet at any time but remove the legal protection and the social contract is gone. Truth is trans women do use women's toilets. Now, in the past and all the time, they shouldn't officially, but they do and it is tolerated, until it isn't. The whole TWAW mantra forces most people to be much less accepting of something that was already being tolerated, because when you shine a light on it, you just see so clearly all the nonsense.

My daughters are scared of boys coming into the loo or other shared spaces. I think when we as adult women say we are ok with it, we have to take responsibility for what then happens to young girls. They are being given no informed choice in this.

I’m not ok with it not anyone. Even Blaire who has had some great cosmetic surgery has features that are very obviously male.

Questions for those who would share:
Why are you ok with this?
Do you have evidence that they are less likely to be violent to women than other males?
Why would you discriminate against other males and yet be ok with this particular group of males?

looking at some of the crowdfunders/requests for money, with mtf people it seems that the most popular surgery is now facial feminisation surgery.

So if mtf are having surgery to allow their faces to 'pass' better but not interested in any 'bottom' surgery - can we see any problems for women brewing with this approach.....

As an aside, having a quick Ecosia search re the above, there is an org that is crowdfunding for taxi's for trans people because they don't feel comfortable on public transport. Obviously I have no problem with that, people can donate to whichever cause they choose.

Maybe we could start one of those for lesbians like the ones that were attacked by teenagers on a London bus for being lesbian. Or maybe just women in general who frequently get harassed/attacked on public transport..

@StillAWoman2

I’m not ok with it not anyone. Even Blaire who has had some great cosmetic surgery has features that are very obviously male.

Indeed

@Barracker

JY is a one off. Not representative of the normal true trans.

Simply not true. There are MANY.
One of the very first truest of true trans recognised with an early GRC shortly after the GRA became law, was the case of the convicted murderer and rapist "Karen Jones". Not to be confused with "Karen White". Another male rapist in women's prison.

Jones killed a man, was imprisoned, released, and almost immediately attempted to rape a woman to get put back inside. Whilst inside, he was awarded a GRC. Not content with his GRC, he demanded to be relocated to the women's prison in order to be considered to be "living as a woman" to get his operation. (He'd already been considered to have 'lived in role as a woman for two years' to get his GRC. But he argued he had to do it in a woman's prison to get his operation) The secretary of state denied him the transfer, so he took them to appeal and won the right to be housed with women under the guise of "I have to, in order to get my operation, even though I'm a murderer, a rapist, and already have a GRC"

Its immaterial whether a man amputates his genitalia, or does not. Whether he has a GRC, or does not. Whether he is a known rapist, or is not. Whether he takes hormones, or does not. Whether he's dangerous, or is not.

There exists no magic portal for any men to become women. There is no "true" trait that overcomes this reality for any man. All men are men. Forever. There's nothing "true" in any man that renders him an honorary woman, no matter who he is, what he feels or what he does.

We perpetuate a dangerous myth when we hold up 'becoming female' as if it was a prize for men who perform, or threaten, or have drastic procedures, or gain ridiculous certificates.

It's way past time we stopped offering up women as sacrificial lambs for men who demand we not treat them like other men.

That was poetry, Barracker...it was erudite and pithy.👌

Never seen Blair before but seen the name. In that vid I would take them for female. Not that that's here or there.

It's the TRAs who are fucking it OP for people like Blair. We used to not be suspicious/ turn a blind eye.

The intense push on women and girls to give up all our boundaries- prisons, sports, communal changing, and everything else besides.

Has made women react. We are reacting to this massive push.

And it fucks things up for people like Blair. Who no doubt is called truscum by the TRA crew.

people like Blair. Who no doubt is called truscum by the TRA crew

Yes they can't stand BW because BW speaks very Franky about her transition, is open and has uploaded videos explaining how she dies not inten

Huh it posted too soon

... ... Does not intend to get "the op"

She passes very well after tens of thousands of dollars spent on face and figure, most T can't afford that so there's a huge amount of envy there on top of the fact BW is proudly right wing too.

It's people like BW who really give me hope in the face of this madness!