50:50 Parliament Campaign to Encourage Women in Politics now have TWO Transwomen on the Panel

[gardenbird48]

I saw 50:50 women tweet to Sue Pascoe Chair of the Conservative Women’s Organisation some time ago on their #askhertostand, but then I couldn’t find the tweet and thought maybe they’d realised their mistake (can you guess?) and deleted it.

However, how wrong I was! There are now two people that have extremely limited ‘lived experience’ as a female (Sue was a married father and successful businessman and Master to Foxhounds until a few years ago). The other person has said hi on here recently.

I don’t mean to be rude but surely the whole point of encouraging women to stand for Parliament is to help overcome the barriers women face in entering politics. Any barriers that trans people face are rather different. It is also interesting that on a panel of three for their ‘Encouraging LGBT+ Women to Stand’ campaign, there us only one person with actual lived experience of being a woman (I am hoping that Mandu Reid of the WEP was born female at least...??)

@RufustheSniggeringReindeer

Funnily enough it was about a child swearing and the mum getting arsey about it

This has got to be one of the most swearyist places on the planet

Or is it sweariest.....gonna hedge my bets and spell it both ways

No. Thats probably my house.

@RedToothBrush

I think Bewilderness needs a name check and a quick c and p on this thread.

1. Women are responsible for what men do.
2. Women saying no to men is a hate crime.
3. Women speaking for themselves are exclusionary and selfish.
4. Women’s opinions are violence against men, thus male violence against women is justified.
5. Women and Feminism must be useful to men or they are worthless.
6. Women who go around being female AT men by menstruating and breastfeeding babies deserve punishment.
7. Women should always be grateful to men for everything.
8. Men are whatever men say they are and women are whatever men say they are.
9. Men always know the “real reasons” for everything women do and say.

10. The worst thing about male violence is that it makes men look bad. 11. Whatever women suffer from, it is worse when it happens to men. 12. Women’s ability to recognize male behavior patterns is misandry. 13. Angry women are crazy. Angry men have trouble expressing themselves. 14. Women have all the rights they need: The right to remain silent. 15. Men are the default human. Women are strange subhuman others. 16. Everyone owns and controls women’s bodies except the women themselves. 17. Men are better at performing femininity than women are because they invented it and it gives them a boner.

It's always worth bearing The Rules of Misogyny by The Bewilderness in mind when travelling through MN FWR. There are often posters who are willing to provide examples.

No. Thats probably my house

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Frightening to see how mired some posters are in the idea they get to define who another person is—who that other person must be, despite that person clearly saying who they are—even though the reality is that's not your right or power to do so.

Yeah, I'm not sure there will be many, or indeed any, people who think being able to distinguish sex, is an ability characterised as scary.

My first deletion!

By the way, it's still a big old NO.

Gardenbird

What gets to me is that GP has lots of Muslim women with cultural boundaries who may not know that the GP is a TW, especially if they are new to the practice. Or they think the GP is a female relative.

I can't understand how the GP practice nor the NHS allows this deception tbh.

I really hope there's a court case.

If I remember rightly I think the BMA now allows any GP to self identify on their list so a patient can request a female doctor but turn up and be faced with a non female. I’m not sure that’s very ethical. Maybe there’ll be a court case?

IIRC, there was a case discussed on MN about a woman who asked for a female HCP for her mammogram or breast examination. The NHS, in its infinite wisdom, provided a TW. When the patient complained, the NHS told the woman that she was a transphobe.

I don't recall the exact details but I am sure that a FWR veteran will be able to provide more information / correct any errors in my recollection.

Again, if memory serves, the NHS overrides women's objections to being in a ward with TW as trans rights are more important than women's safety, privacy and dignity.

Yet you seem very comfortable to think you can redefine what a woman is. Being a woman is a human being with a female body. Thats it. Thats all we share with other women. Yet you think you can redefine the word woman to mean anyone with an unverifiable inner feeling, a concept for which there is no scientific underpinning. You can believe it if you wish. You cannot, however, force others to believe.

There really isn't much more that needs to be said apart from that. You've covered it all. We will just keep pointing out to everyone, as loudly as it takes, that the Emperor's lovely, fashionable new clothes don't conceal very much at all.

@MummBraTheEverLeaking

My first deletion!

By the way, it's still a big old NO.

Me too. And another big fat NO.

It really is amazing that given that “t*rfs” are so racist, that so many of the big cases involving these issues have been BAME women (Keira B, Maya F, Allison B, Raquel RS, Linda B...and I’m definitely missing someone, sorry, brain has frozen).

How can that be if it’s all so howlingly racist? what ethnicity are the people levelling this charge? And lastly, if you’re on record comparing feminists to Nazis, then where does casual anti semitism come into the equation?

All very puzzling.

The BMA is supposedly the trade union for doctors (arf) so will only keep a list of its members. I’m not one so have no idea whetger they document a doctor’s sex/gender ID. All doctors practicing in the UK have to be on the GMC register who do record whether they are male or female. Although I can’t actually remember whether i was washed my sex or gender. Although they have drunk the Kool Aid to a certain extent I think even the GMC would be wary of allowing doctors to self-id their sex.

And Molten there’s really no need to bring up the Weetabix horror.

GMC register records gender. The GP in the linked article upthread is recorded as female.

It really is amazing that given that “trfs” are so racist...*

They've clearly never heard of Lipstick Alley. I'd love to see them try and spout this shite there, the women over there do NOT pull their punches.

Your post has reminded me of Allison's tweet, which is worth posting again (as Allison asks us to in the tweet.)

Happy Monday everyone. So, when the usual suspects spout their usual nonsense about the gender critical movement in the UK being an extension of white feminism etc, remind them that EVERY key case before the courts right now is being brought by women of colour.

Maya Fostater
Raquel Rosario-Sànchez
Keira Bell
Sonia Appleby
Me

Now consider the key names who denounce “white feminism” & champion trans politics. White men. Every last one of them. It would be funny if it wasn’t so expletive, expletive...

twitter.com/BluskyeAllison/status/1290181205321637888

@Faffertea

The BMA is supposedly the trade union for doctors (arf) so will only keep a list of its members. I’m not one so have no idea whetger they document a doctor’s sex/gender ID. All doctors practicing in the UK have to be on the GMC register who do record whether they are male or female. Although I can’t actually remember whether i was washed my sex or gender. Although they have drunk the Kool Aid to a certain extent I think even the GMC would be wary of allowing doctors to self-id their sex.

And Molten there’s really no need to bring up the Weetabix horror.

Ah you’re right - if seen it mentioned by the GMC - you can get a new parallel entry in the gp register under your new name and ‘gender’... no other documentation needed ie GRC etc

And then we get this in my. Country. Justice minister doesn’t even know there are 2 sexes. Too stupid or too afraid ?

This

@AlfonsoTheTerrible

If I remember rightly I think the BMA now allows any GP to self identify on their list so a patient can request a female doctor but turn up and be faced with a non female. I’m not sure that’s very ethical. Maybe there’ll be a court case?

IIRC, there was a case discussed on MN about a woman who asked for a female HCP for her mammogram or breast examination. The NHS, in its infinite wisdom, provided a TW. When the patient complained, the NHS told the woman that she was a transphobe.

I don't recall the exact details but I am sure that a FWR veteran will be able to provide more information / correct any errors in my recollection.

Again, if memory serves, the NHS overrides women's objections to being in a ward with TW as trans rights are more important than women's safety, privacy and dignity.

That was Clare Dymon.

Thanks, MaudTheInvincible. That's the one.

Clare Dymon wrote about it here informedmedicalconsent.blogspot.com/2019/10/voluntary-informed-consent-biological.html