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The post-cancellation of Julie Bindel. Not on my watch mate .... Suzanne Moore

30 replies

stumbledin · 09/02/2021 16:30

If you put this in a film script about some Orwellian future you would go that's a bit far fetched.

But this is today's reality!

suzannemoore.substack.com/p/the-post-cancellation-of-julie-bindel

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BraveBananaBadge · 09/02/2021 16:41

Ah, just mentioned this on the other thread! Absolutely unbelievable.

CaraDuneRedux · 09/02/2021 16:41

Great article!

(I see she seems to be writing for the Telegraph fairly regularly now - today's is "The only wrong way to be a woman these days is to stand up for women's rights" www.telegraph.co.uk/women/life/wrong-way-woman-days-stand-womens-rights/. Great piece, apologies it's behind a pay-wall).

stumbledin · 09/02/2021 16:44

She writes for the Telegraph because only it and the Times regularly publish GC journalists.

Dont forget she was harrassed out of the Guardian.

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stumbledin · 09/02/2021 16:46

Also worth remembering that most of these papers offer a limited number of free articles per month, so if every mumsnetter signed up we would be able to regularly get articles or at least archive them.

Warning: if you paste a whole article into a mumsnet thread it will be deleted.

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CaraDuneRedux · 09/02/2021 16:49

Also publishes articles by Julie Bindel and Joan Smith semi-regularly.

However, do not under any account, ever look below the line. That is an insight into the minds of the worst of humanity I could live without...

GCmiddle · 09/02/2021 16:58

The bookshop owners referred to in Suzanne's article are cowards - they are afraid that if they don't now denounce Julie Bindel for 'sins' of the past, they themselves will come under fire from TRAs. So they will throw her under the bus to save themselves.

BraveBananaBadge · 09/02/2021 20:40

Julie's written about it in The Spectator:

www.spectator.co.uk/article/why-are-trans-activists-and-a-bookstore-trying-to-cancel-me-

And it appears from Twitter a writer called Allison Evans is giving themselves the credit for demanding the bookstore apologise.

DancelikeEmmaGoldman · 09/02/2021 21:00

Readings stores tend to be in places which are also infested with the ultra-woke, student brigade. I suspect though, that the blue hair brigade buy fewer books than the well-heeled inhabitants of Carlton and St Kilda. I’m also guessing that Juno Dawson is not terribly well-known in Australia, while Julie Bindel has a stellar reputation in feminist circles. Women buy more books than men.

Livinginthecity · 10/02/2021 17:08

It used to be the blue rinse brigade and now its the blue haired brigade. They are both censorious so quite similar even if politically miles apart.

TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 11/02/2021 19:30

It used to be the blue rinse brigade and now its the blue haired brigade.

Grin
TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 11/02/2021 19:33

[quote Igneococcus]Also in the Times today:
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/ec448078-6c68-11eb-9ef0-206cb89ab544?shareToken=06ffbfd41f749e0be5de1a55335084a2[/quote]
Reading that Times article, it turns out the book shop owner, having said he regrets hosting Bindel, now says he regrets apologising...! He’s in quite the spin, isn’t he.

That’s where pandering will get you.

Time he channelled his inner Edith Piaf, methinks.

CranberriesChoccyAgain · 11/02/2021 19:36

Always lots of concern for safety of transpeople (which is ok of course), but not much thought for the safety of women who get rape and death threats for speaking up for women's rights.

TalkingtoLangClegintheDark · 11/02/2021 19:58

Yes. And the usual double standards abound. The book shop owner said this of Bindel:

Her views on transgender people are particularly controversial and have caused distress in that community.

But nothing about the fact that Dawson’s views on women are particularly controversial and have caused distress in our community.

Hm. I wonder why that could be.

CaraDuneRedux · 12/02/2021 09:34

Don't forget Dawson's attitude to homosexuality (Dawson's infamous article in the Independent arguing that gay men were acting out as a consolation prize for not being trans Shock).

ALittleBitofVitriol · 12/02/2021 10:15

Alison Evans, the blue-haired (of course) non-binary author who demanded an apology as a condition of her appearing, has published a book called Euphoria Kids - a YA fiction novel with multiple trans characters.

Botsy · 12/02/2021 11:38

Name-changed for this but Jo March replied to me in the Times comments... Feminism level up!

Igneococcus · 12/02/2021 11:40

Name-changed for this but Jo March replied to me in the Times comments... Feminism level up!

Janice Turner (or someone with the same name) once recommened one of my comments [preens]

Ereshkigalangcleg · 12/02/2021 11:43

Dawson is also in W Yorks? Didn't know that.

Botsy · 12/02/2021 11:55

@Igneococcus

Name-changed for this but Jo March replied to me in the Times comments... Feminism level up!

Janice Turner (or someone with the same name) once recommened one of my comments [preens]

Oooooh, fancy pants!
MaudTheInvincible · 12/02/2021 12:00

[quote stumbledin]If you put this in a film script about some Orwellian future you would go that's a bit far fetched.

But this is today's reality!

suzannemoore.substack.com/p/the-post-cancellation-of-julie-bindel[/quote]

"She talks the talk and she walks the walk"

Too right. She's an icon.

merrymouse · 12/02/2021 13:53

Was the apology about the apology made on twitter or was it only available to people who have bought access to the UK Times...?

merrymouse · 12/02/2021 13:58

mobile.twitter.com/ReadingsBooks

I'm a bit confused.

They regret the apology, but haven't actually removed it from their twitter account?

????

ChattyLion · 12/02/2021 22:49

How ridiculous and embarrassing of that author to demand an apology for a venue for simply hosting another author they didn’t agree with. Did this person also demand the bookshop get some sage and smudge the place too to get rid of any lurking anti-misogyny vibes?

Absolute cringeworthy eejits.

Wandawomble · 13/02/2021 08:08

@ChattyLion

How ridiculous and embarrassing of that author to demand an apology for a venue for simply hosting another author they didn’t agree with. Did this person also demand the bookshop get some sage and smudge the place too to get rid of any lurking anti-misogyny vibes?

Absolute cringeworthy eejits.

Very entitled and weak. Looking the author up and not impressed by their catalogue.